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Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 1:56 pm

I know it's asked a lot of times but there's not been much advance with processors lately so what is the best chipset recommended for pulsar now,plus the memory and motherboard.Has been a while since I upgraded.Also what are the best hard drives now which dont conflict with busses?
Thx-sorry if it's already been asked.

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 2:23 pm

Here comes our current audio-pc setup:

<TABLE WIDTH="100%" BORDER="0" CELLSPACING="3" CELLPADDING="3"><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TD></TD><TH BGCOLOR="#003399">AUDIO
PC Platinum</TH><TH BGCOLOR="#003399" NOWRAP>AUDIO
PC Gold</TH><TH BGCOLOR="#003399" NOWRAP>AUDIO
PC</TH></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>Processor</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Intel
Northwood P4 3 GHz</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Intel
Northwood P4 2,6 GHz</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Intel
Northwood P4 2,6 GHz</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>Mainboard</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Asus
P4 P-800</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Asus
P4 P-800</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Asus
P4 P-800</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>Chipset</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Intel
865 PE</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Intel
865 PE</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Intel
865 PE</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>RAM</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">1 GB Samsung
RAM 400 MHz</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">1 GB
Samsung RAM 400 MHz</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">512 MB
Samsung RAM 400 MHz</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>HD</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">2 Western
Digital 120 GB, 8 MB Cache WD 1200 JB</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">2 Western
Digital 120 GB, 8 MB Cache WD 1200 JB</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">1 Western
Digital 120 GB, 8 MB Cache WD 1200 JB</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>GC</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Matrox
G 550</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Matrox
G 550</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Matrox
G 550</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>PS</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">ENERMAX
EG 365 FMA</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">ENERMAX
EG 365 FMA</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">ENERMAX
EG 365 FMA</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>CD-RW
(DVD ROM)</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Samsung
CD/RW SM-348B</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Samsung
CD/RW SM-348B</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Samsung
CD/RW SM-348B</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>OS</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Windows
XP home</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Windows
XP home</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Windows
XP home</TD></TR><TR ALIGN="CENTER" VALIGN="MIDDLE"><TH NOWRAP>CASE</TH><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Titan
SCB-031</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Titan
SCB-031</TD><TD BGCOLOR="#0033CC">Titan
SCB-031</TD></TR></TABLE>

(hamburg-audio-pc 06.10.2003)

[ This Message was edited by: Andre Dupke on 2003-06-26 18:22 ]

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 2:25 pm

don't know if it's best, but for sure you will not have hardware conflicts if you buy a mac.
what it's worth for you...

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 3:25 pm

Crikey, when i see a list like that remember why i got a Mac.

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:05 pm

yes, some stories on planetz horrify me, at least let buying a mac be a serious consideration for you who must choose yet.
check Sandrobs problems, he got the best pc, yet the problems can't be localised (if a problem can be either the mobo OR the fan, jeezzz...it could be your mother also).

No offend, let this be clear, but it's worth the mony to be sure about your hardware investment, realy.

ah, cold sweat when I see your list Andre, not mentioning the time needed to gather that (great) knowledge.

I really really don't have any problem with this:

_________________
Let There Be Music!

[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2003-06-09 20:18 ]

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:58 pm

Too bad macs have clearance issues with their windtunnel case

On a more serious note, I wouldn't recommend XP Home unless its your only machine in the studio, networking with it is a pain.

R-type · Post by **R-type** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:57 am

With Macs you don't get XTC mode which means I will never get one. Also they underpowered unless you have a powercore.

I think you will be sweet with any Intel chipset mobo. Although Asus is a totally safe bet and no more costly.

If you're building yourself then I recommend you buy at least a 400 Watt power supply (or 350+ from enermax or other good brand) because I recently had a power supply problem when I installed my second creamware card. Computer wouldn't start etc...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:02 am

what's the problem with Andre's list ?
he actually sells the same PC with 2 CPU clockrates and 2 memory variants. Everything else is identical

Nevertheless I agree on the Mac issue: if I consider only the time it took me to get my Win98 machine silent... let alone reinstalls and surprises the OS provides from time to time

cheers, Tom

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 5:32 am

That list doesn't scare me at all. I find it rather simple. Try looking at how few differences there are = about as many as on macs (I believe)

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 12:59 pm

On 2003-06-09 21:58, valis wrote:

On a more serious note, I wouldn't recommend XP Home unless its your only machine in the studio, networking with it is a pain.

Why?
..running Apache-server, business-network (5 computers) and DSL on win home...

[ This Message was edited by: Andre Dupke on 2003-06-10 14:05 ]

otter · Post by **otter** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:36 pm

Oh no, it´s another mac vs. pc thread

If u aks me, both have advantages and disadvantages. Imho it´no use discussing that.
Everbody should know what he/she prefers...

BTW getting back to the main subject:

I think 353W may be a bit short.
Better go fo the EG465AX-VE(G)(W) FMA.
Has 460W.
U never can have enough reserve..

Peace,
Otter

[ This Message was edited by: otter on 2003-06-10 14:43 ]

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:48 pm

Power needs depend a lot on components. Overclocking gamers will tell you long stories about power need. g550 Don't use that much.

otter · Post by **otter** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 3:41 pm

yes you´re right, depends on many things.

i just thought about it because i had trouble with power in my system( 300W/ PIII 1Ghz /Cusl2c/Nvidia MX 400 DualHead/ 2XPulsar 1x Luna/midex8 via usb) . i changed to 400w everything´s ok now.even if you don´t need the 400w, it helps to prevent spikes so the system gets more stable.
So if you sell it as a DAW i think it should be able to handle a lot of stuff connected to it.

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:10 pm

On 2003-06-10 13:59, Andre Dupke wrote:
Why?
..running Apache-server, business-network (5 computers) and DSL on win home...

[ This Message was edited by: Andre Dupke on 2003-06-10 14:05 ]

Its not the tcp stack that's broken, but network permissions are too dumbed down for my tastes.

There are other differences as well...
Of course I never ran win 95/98/ME, I've been NT (for PC) since 3.51.

And as far as mac vs. pc goes, don't even get me started on SGI's woes (but there was a time when they were useful for certain tasks)

caleb · Post by **caleb** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:30 am

I will probably upgrade myself too this year. May go for some goliath system that has everything and then some.

At that time I'll go to a 2 monitor setup as well and maybe use my oldest computer as a web server.

OK - I'm rambling now.

Post by **hubird** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 7:35 am

Valis, what does mean 'SGI's woes' ?

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 7:42 am

SGI is Silicon Graphics Inc computers....

woes? donno, maybe 'SGI fabulations'?

They are simply some unix machine with specialised graphics software preloaded...

Any linux do about the same today, but 5years ago, that was 'DA BOMB' for animation and related stuffs....

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 5:32 pm

might have something to do with Casablanca

...And when two lovers woo
They still say, "I love you"
On that you can rely
No matter what the future brings
As time goes by...

Hubird, a Humphrey-Ingrid smiley available ?

Tom

ps: recently s.o offered a SGI Crimson on eBay with the words ... you MUST have heard this booting

Post by **hubird** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 6:26 pm

Hubird, a Humphrey-Ingrid smiley available ?

o well, 'nobody's perfect'

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:20 am

On 2003-06-10 16:41, otter wrote:
So if you sell it as a DAW i think it should be able to handle a lot of stuff connected to it.

Our audio-pc setup works stable with up to 45 dsps (3 power pulsar) in a lot of studios...
Maybe, it´s a point of power supply quality too!