Problem with my setup

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:21 pm

Hi

I've bought a Creamware Pulsar 2 plus board, in 2001.The salesman recommends me plug it into a PC with an ASUS CUSL2, AGP PRO/4x. motherboard.
I did it and everything was OK.

But now, I Update my pc and I've bought

MOTHERBOARD: ASUS M2N-E
Processor: AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual core processor 3800+
RAM: Gskill (4gb) (3,5gb in use)
Video: Nvidia Ge Force 7600GS
Windows Original XP SP2
Nuendo 3 original
scope 4.5

the problem is that while run scope, Windows xp tilt ..really, this become in freezee state and only option is restart in manual mode.

I´ve tried with windows xp sp1
Updated the bios
test the memory
reinstalling xp
reinstalling scope v4.0 & v4.5
with others secuencers like CUBASE SX 2.0
Installing amd drivers (processor)
patch for amd
...................................and never has ran correctly

Please Im from Argentina (spanish) im sorry for my beginner eng.

Guido

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:27 am

el problema occure solo cuando abres Scope ? (por ejemplo con Windows Media Player que pasa si no abres nuendo?) Yo probaria Nuendo con la tarjeta de sonido incluida en la carta madre... Solo tienes que cambiar el asio en Nuendo.

Hum, well let's speak english (or french ?) as i have spent all my vocabulary... Just avoid Scope to find out if it is a PC instability (your RAM could take the blame too as there can be compatibility issues...) or if Scope takes the blame.

Jo

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:11 am

Thank you Jo !!

Hasta ahora siempre se ha freezado usando: (ever freeze when I used)
1- Scope+Windows Media Player or Winamp :Some times (freeze random)
2- Scope+Nuendo :A lot of times (vst performance 20%) for example
3- Nuendo+Asio driver: without Scope it`s ok but I can´t listen audio (I´ve disable or desactivate the on-board soundcard from bios setup, for that it not cause conflicts whit Pulsar.)

The same Pulsar 2 was teste with my older pc with an ASUS CUSL2 and everything was ok.
The RAM memory was teste and they are compatibilty. and too I tried with only 2gb and they are compatibilty but when I run Scope this random freeze.

Are compatibilities ASUS M2N-E + amd dual core 3800 with Pulsar 2??

Thank You !!! Jo!!

Probé todo: Usando el nuendo con el asio driver , testié las memorias , las cambié de lugar, instalé el driver del microprocesador, instalé la ultima Bios, Filtré los active sensing de las conexiones MIDI , cambié de sistema operativo varias veces, el asus probe ( mother test) no dice tener conflictos entre IRQ´s
en caso de no encontrarle la solución , Que MOTHER y PROCESADOR debería comprar?

Mil Gracias!!! Guido

MikeRaphone · Post by **MikeRaphone** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:34 am

I think there are problems with dualcore amd processors.
Try disableing one core...
Maybe Shayne has more on it.

Cheers

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:03 am

i only have experience with P4 and core2duo so.... HAve you tried to change the pci slot just in case of conflict ?

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:27 am

I´ve never tried change the pci slot, anyway I can´t because I have a lot of cables (sata, etc).I´ve thaught before...

Thanks!

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:13 pm

I´ve been trying with one core ....and there are problems too (was a good idea)

Mike say that AMD have problems...but why?

G.

Post by **hubird** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:55 pm

Post by **garyb** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:45 pm

the probelm with amd processors are the chipsets that run the motherboards. add to this the fact that the intel chip is the benchmark around which the os is created. there's a reason that apple is using them

yours should work, though.
first, what is your card sharing an irq with?
second, does your problem only exist when midi is connected to the card?

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:22 am

Thanks Garyb!!

1) There is only one device in IRQ 17
2) I didn´t , the problem exist with and without MIDI (Korg X5) anyway I´ve inserted a MIDI FILTER (Filtering active sensing)

Post by **garyb** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:07 am

ok, then...
the last trick i know is trying the 3.1b driver.
if you do a search, it's available on this site. if you don't find it, i'll upload it later....

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:48 am

Thanks I´ll try find it.

Gracias!!

Guido

valis · Post by **valis** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:37 pm

Is doing active sensing filtering in Scope as effective as doing it externally?

Post by **garyb** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:18 pm

no, external is much better....

Post by **hubird** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:33 pm

that's for sure, tho blocking inside SFP cured some sinc problems already

tgstgs · Post by **tgstgs** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:40 pm

while watching your jpg i find strange to see a bigMixer v2 which is no longer part of SW;
maybe it has a reason why?
if its realy a bigmixer V2 you can try to change to a uptodate mixer!
maybe it helps;

good luck

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:36 am

I´ll try with the mixer STM 1632 or Control Room but I don´t belive that the problem happen with this...but I´ll try too.

Thanks! tgstgs

Guido

Does Anybody have the scope 3.1b version? I don´t find it.

Thanks again!!!

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:56 pm

sorry, don't have 3.1b handy. a quick search brought up 3.1a and 3.1c

try those...

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:57 pm

ali · Post by **ali** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:17 pm

3.1b can be found here

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19769