War on the Net

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:10 am

I've reimaged my C drive three times (Norton Ghost) and all my NI gear (Kontakt & Absynth) works fine. The *only* software that needs reauthorisation for me is Norton security.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Thu May 12, 2005 2:49 pm

this is a good story if you're interested in hacker attacks: http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm

"welcome to the brave new world of
the 13 year-old Internet terrorist"

[ This Message was edited by: King of Snake on 2005-05-12 15:50 ]

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu May 12, 2005 4:37 pm

Thanks Nestor. I found a keylogger! I wonder if my gf planted this. It seems like something she would do, then again I heard that commercial key logging software is being used by hackers because a lot of programs don't search for them.

On 2005-05-12 00:28, Nestor wrote:

For those who want to have their PC truly clean of spyware, there is no better software than Acronis Privacy Expert.

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu May 12, 2005 6:15 pm

So your girlfriend is a hacker Brain?

Cool Clean it every time she visits you

emzee · Post by **emzee** » Thu May 12, 2005 7:17 pm

Don't work too late while running Acronis..... it wiped virtually every downloaded file I had.... Stiges Drumset....the lot. I'd like to think I was tired and pushed the wrong button.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu May 12, 2005 9:31 pm

You must have used the drive cleaner. I looked at that and thought it must be dangerous. I think you would use that to wipe out boot sector viruses.

The commercial key loggers such as "codename alvin" are sold under the pretense that they would be used to spy on your children. Common sense would tell you that children are not who they are most commonly used on. I don't feel it's ethical to spy on your children anyway. I know people would disagree with that. I'm not a parent.

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Thu May 12, 2005 9:48 pm

Was very amused to read today in a leadinng economic newspaper here, that most commonly used commercial software does a very bad job at keepinng your PC clean. The Norton package even removed 1 out of 50+ evil programs

McAffee and the lot didn't do much better.

Another thingie: Windows firewall, as any other I've seen, (ZA, TPF,..) recognises at most 3 protocols: TCP, UDP, ICMP. But do you also know about the 150 other protocols that your firewall does not know about?

M$ announced their anti-spyware. IMHO the whole OS is spyware, especially if you don't know how to set it up properly. Glad they admit it now tho

Maybe the kids in MS office could concentrate a bit more on make their OS fool proof, instead of studying how they can make more $ on patents.

King of Snake, http://www.grc.com was my favorite security website, untill I put my web machine on linux and all that spy/tracking crap is history now. I do realise if somebody wants to get to my machine, they will.
A lock on the door doesn't prevent the burglar from breaking the windows eh. It just makes it harder for the occasional passant to get in.

emzee · Post by **emzee** » Thu May 12, 2005 10:21 pm

And the joke is that you can get Linux with basic apps for FREE. And they'll send you 10 CD's to distribute to your friends. I'm waiting on mine as I write.

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/

Edit: And yeah...I used the Drive Wiper...oops. Shoulda just gone to bed.

[ This Message was edited by: emzee on 2005-05-13 06:51 ]

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Fri May 13, 2005 9:19 am

On 2005-05-12 22:48, at0m wrote:

But do you also know about the 150 other protocols that your firewall does not know about?

However those are protocols that Windows does not understand and responds to. (also, one needs to add a specific protocol support for a given ethernet card, in the card's system properties)

Maybe the kids in MS office could concentrate a bit more on make their OS fool proof, instead of studying how they can make more $ on patents.

I think they should concentrate on optimizing it and speeding it up. At start up, load only modules and services that you want not a gazillion services and drivers that one never uses.

[ This Message was edited by: BingoTheClowno on 2005-05-13 11:07 ]

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat May 14, 2005 6:48 pm

one cannot optimize sh*t - it can only be made to stink less...