This is how the outside world now sees Creamware:

[aMo]

I e-mailed Access and asked for the posibillities of them joining the 3rd party development for pulsar/scope (mainly just for fun.

The responce was not so good:

dear aleksander,

thanks for your suggestions. unfortunately there is two reasons why we won't
do a pulsar/scope-platform plug-ins:

- creamware is using another (non motorola) DSP which means that we would
have to develop from scratch again. the virus is written in assembler, maybe
timeworx compiled their code to work which means that they're more or less
platform independent.

- creamware filed for bankruptcy last month

with regards,

marc schlaile

I wasn't really expecting a real positive responce, I was just curious to why the "big" synth companies don't seem interested..
I'm afraid, until this chapter 11 thing is resolved (well resolved), we will not see any "big names" on the CW-platform..

I'm not saying we so desperately need them to make music (not even that WE, the users need them at all), but it could be a selling argument for those who are considering buying a pulsar/scope for the 1st time, and I think CW needs as many as possible of those arguments right now..

hmm...

[King of Snake]

yes it's a shame that this "bankrupcy" thing has spread so wide, but no-one seems to want to believe what CW have to say about it. I guess people always like to believe (and spread) bad news more than good news. It's even worse that this is going on even in the developers community.

[wavelength]

the bankruptcy comment seems more of a jibe, than an actual reason for not contributing. remember that Access does the ProTools "thing" and ProTools would be the only platform that actually competes with CreamWare's SFP stuff (spec-wise). CreamWare is, in fact, competition for Access in many regards and trash-talking them might benefit Access, from their standpoint... especially if Noah really "takes off", right? now CreamWare would be hardware competition for the Virus, as well.

any company loves to spread the misery when the competition is struggling at all, especially in a market as "starving" as the MI is right now. the only sectors that are pulling in money are the home-user markets (for gaming, etc).

another thing to think about is that if Access really had even the slightest desire to contribute to CreamWare, they've had a good many years to climb on board (nice pun)... CreamWare's recent financial issues would thus have little to do with anything.

in my view, the fact that Access made issue of CreamWare's Chapter 11, only reveals their own desperate current situation.

-stephen

http://www.track0.com/wavelength/

[scary808]

Even if they did make an SFP Virus, would any of you pay the $800 they would charge for it? I have used the TDM Virus & I wasn't very impressed. Besides the motorala DSP chips on the TDM cards are only 24Bit Fixed point whereas the good ol' Sharcs are 32bit Floating point giving us a much sexier dynamic range. BTW Stephen, I bought the Sparc last week & it's fantastic!

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[astroman]

how would Access explain their user base that the SFP Virus sounds so much better...
Not that I'm convinced it will (and no bashing on another small German developement company), but at least it could happen
Imho Access is probably the most concerned competitor of NOAH.
Clavia has a broader product range plus more 'brand impact' while Korg and Yamaha are business giants of another league.

cheers, Tom

[emzee]

Any surviving business will go through tough patches. It's the nature of a competitive market. The music software industry appears to be filled with shakeouts, mergers etc recently.

"That which does not kill me makes me stronger".

I'm no insider, but I believe Creamware will emerge stronger and better.