Optimaster+Timeworks MasterCompressor

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:39 am

Put these two together and got very clear in your face sound that was close to cd.Woohoo!

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:27 pm

don't these two plugs do pretty much the same thing? So you're actually double-compressing your mix? Seems a bit strange to me...

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:44 pm

I used that series couple of times too. Optimaster is too transparant, but has some xtra features. STW's compressor is da bomb, great for hot mixed dance music.

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 3:12 pm

On 2003-07-12 14:27, King of Snake wrote:
don't these two plugs do pretty much the same thing?

Not even close. (A lingeri shop without a window?)
Optimaster is a multiband compressor/limiter, and is pretty transperant.
Timeworks MasterComp is singleband, and it "colors" the sound somewhat...

So you're actually double-compressing your mix? Seems a bit strange to me...

I WIN !

On my last mastering job I "tripple-compressed":
Vinco-> Optimaster-> VintagEQ-> MasteringComp (Hard)
Different compressors = Different sound and function.
I added the Vinco in addition to my usual setup in order to get the same effect that I usually get from the SSL mix compressor...
(With a quite pleasing result.)

Kim.

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:42 pm

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Different compressors = Different sound and function.
Kim.

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That's a question I 've been meaning to ask Kim.What type of compressors are the software ones trying to emulate and how.I.E OPTO VCA FET?
Thx!

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:01 am

ah, I thought the Timeworks was a multiband too. My mistake. Can you maybe post some mp3 of how it sounds? I'm interested to hear the result of so much compression

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:05 am

Why not download the demo and try it for yourself:
http://d-media.dk/plugs/SeriesIII.htm

Kim.

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:08 am

On 2003-07-12 22:42, Music Manic wrote:
What type of compressors are the software ones trying to emulate?

Vinco is clearly an 1176 clone. (FET based Solid State Limiting Amplifier)
In addition Vinco also has a softclip limiter, and the possibility to use RMS detection.
Use: On almost anything you want to have that "vintage compressor" sound.

D-Mute D-Comp is functionally much the same as Vinco, but not as "analog-sounding".
(But then again, it's free!)

Timeworks CompressorX doesn't seem to be modelled after one particular compressor. (Maybe Focusrite Red 3 ?)
It can do both RMS and peak detection, soft and hard ratio, and brick wall limiting. It is able to sound really transparent or "pumping" depending on settings.
Use: When you want more control over compression or more transperant sound.

The Optimaster resembles a Finalizer mostly. (Digital multiband compressor+limiter)
Use: Mastering. Can also be useful on submixes of drums, voices and beats.

Final Liza is a (simple) digital multiband compressor.

Timeworks MasteringCompressor Hard is a digital "loudness maximizer", using softclip compression and brickwall limiting. Responds much like a hardknee compressor, and sounds transparent if not overused.
Use: Mastering. (Or anything else you want "maximized".)

Timeworks MasteringCompressor Soft has the same functionality as the Hard version, but responds more like a softknee compressor and has build-in bass enhancer and high frequency "smoother". (Sounds a bit like transferring your mix to a high-end analog recorder to me.)
Use: Mastering. (Or anything else you want "maximized" and "analog-enhanced".)

Kim.

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 9:33 am

Thx for info Kim.Now I know more I'm thinking of getting Vinco.
What abot Sharc one,what is that based on.If you have any more info about other plugins I would like to know because the info is very useful.
Thx

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:17 pm

The Sharc One is using the CompressorX algorithm without the brickwall limiter.
In addition there's a modified version of Creamware's softclip limiter...

Kim.

scary808 · Post by **scary808** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 4:20 pm

On 2003-07-13 09:08, kimgr wrote:
Vinco is clearly an 1176 clone. (FET based Solid State Limiting Amplifier)

Is it possible to "push in" all of the ratio buttons to get the 80:1 compression ratio like on the real version & TDM/RTAS plugins?

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Thalamus · Post by **Thalamus** » Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:33 pm

No, unfurtunatly all buttons mode is not available in Vinco. Don't know why. In fact the ratio is not 80:1 but goes to somewhere between 12:1 and 20:1 ( http://www.uaudio.com/webzine/april/tex ... tent4.html )

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Tue Jul 29, 2003 9:07 am

Actually Kim, after reading this thread,I've been meaning to try the Mastercomp soft and hard together instead of using a limiter. Anyone done this?

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