Cable question..

aMo · Post by **aMo** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:40 pm

Would a cable like this be any better against noise, than eight seperate cables?

I am only getting -80db on all analog inputs (white noise when gain is set high), is this bad?

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Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:51 pm

When you add gain, you add everything - noise included. It is better to add gain before your converter. What is your noise level with the gain set to 0 in SFP?

The cable looks pretty cheap to me. Convenient, but cheap.

aMo · Post by **aMo** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 4:58 pm

Yeah.. looks like cheap quality.. but I'd like a cable like that, with no compromise on quality... preferrably.. any suggestions?

my noise level is -80db when gain is set to 0, but I had the impression from the Alesis Ai3 ADAT interface manual, that I was supposed to get -100db.. I might be mistaken though..

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 6:09 pm

when it's white noise without brzzzling and humming you have at least no ground, case or shielding probs

cheers, tom

RedSun · Post by **RedSun** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 10:13 pm

This will probably make your noise level worse. These cables are all unbalanced, thus sensible to EM interference pickup and, since they're all parallel and as close together as can be, if one picks up that kind of noise, all the others will too.

If you can't use good balanced cables in your setup, you might want to take the time to do a search in the articles on the <a href=”http://www.sospubs.co.uk”>Sound On Sound</a> website. They have some good ones on wiring and grounding schemes.

BTW, these are Hosa cables, right?

RedSun .:.

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aMo · Post by **aMo** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:29 am

They are Hosa right.. and they are also available in balanced..
But will it matter if it's balanced or not when the outputs of my Virus unbalanced?

RedSun · Post by **RedSun** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 4:32 pm

It won't. Using balanced cables with unbalanced equipment will make you lose all their noise rejection benefits.

RedSun .:.

aMo · Post by **aMo** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:07 pm

So what is best for connecting unbalanced cables? (short distance)

grotools · Post by **grotools** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:15 pm

In general it's better to have them made especially. I never found unbalanced cables in the shops....

Post by **garyb** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:25 pm

those hosa cables are o.k..better would be a higher quality cable w/ soldered ends such as mogami or canare or monster.you may have to make the snake yourself or custom order it.the extra expense is probably not justified,but if you have the money...........

aMo · Post by **aMo** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:39 pm

hmm.. Why didn't I think of Monster?? hehe

This one looks like a winner..

The thing with collecting all the cables in a snake, is that if you twist them correctly, they will not have any effect on each other, this is why most cables have the positive and negative cable twisted around each other..

I only need one, so I can probably justify getting a Monster in a snake (haha I made a funny)..

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:33 pm

yeah, like one of those Aussie watersnakes

but this has 8 legs, to me it looks more like a spider, Black Widow cable

the colors of my racing bicycle btw