Pulsar II, Samplitude Pro 7.1, & Spectrasonics Atmosphere

elisha · Post by **elisha** » Mon May 12, 2003 5:13 pm

I have had some real problems getting started with the above... I have not been able to hear a single sound from the Spectrasonics Atmosphere Dreamsynth Module vsti even though I've tried many ways for almost 1 month. Creamware support can't help because they have no copy of Samp... Samp support is trying to help.... perhaps one of you might know what I need to do to get this to work.... I have the midi source & dest connected to the sequencer source and dest.... but it is not recognized by samp. as a midi record or playback device. Anyone know how to make connections in Pulsar so that Samp. will recognize the midi modules?
Thanks,
Mike

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Mon May 12, 2003 7:16 pm

I don't have the Spectrasonics Atmosphere Dreamsynth, but I know Samp 7.1 has troubles with some VSTi's. Matter of fact, midi is generally wonky in Samplitude. Some VSTi's work ok (Like NI B4), some not at all (like z3ta). Same thing with SFP devices - sometimes they receive midi data thru Samp, sometimes not. My guess is it relates to a problem with the midi thru function.

I'm sure Magix is aware of this and are working on a fix.

I think the midi implementation in Sam7 is a bit too young to be reliable. I do my midi tracking in SX and leave the audio mixing/mastering for Samplitude.

/dave

Spirit · Post by **Spirit** » Mon May 12, 2003 7:34 pm

I know absolutely nothing about Samplitude, but perhaps you could try to run it in the free demo version of Fruity running as a vsti, and insert that into Sam ? It's a bit hard on the CPU but if it works it'd sure be better than silence.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue May 13, 2003 6:29 am

have you tried a virtual midi router like Midi-Ox instead of CW's sequencer source/destination modules ?

cheers, Tom

elisha · Post by **elisha** » Tue May 13, 2003 4:50 pm

Thanks for the replies.....
question:
If I get something like midi-ox or even midioverlan where do I put it? should it go in the SFP folder?
Thanks!
Mike

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue May 13, 2003 5:02 pm

no no no!

Those are program that you must install on their own...

MIDI OX is free, just get it and at least try it before buying anything...

elisha · Post by **elisha** » Wed May 14, 2003 2:47 pm

Hey, Marcuspocus.. thanks... I downloaded and installed midi ox.... now I'm not sure how it works but I have both midiox and midiyoke on the computer...

CW support now thinks my problems come from a corrupt download of SFP.... CD is on it's way...

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Thu May 15, 2003 2:18 am

Forget midiyoke, it induce latency, is not as full featured as midi-ox, is redundant (midi-ox conver it all) and also can create bad midiloop a bit too easily.

The sfp problem is possible, but i doubt it, if everything else work except Atmosphere, it's probably more a problem with the vsti host imho...

I read somewhere that Samplitude had problem with a couple of vsti like this, their vsti implementation is still not perfect it seems.

Anyway, i got atmosphere, and it work perfectly in fruityloops and Logic, so i'm sure the problem is not atmosphere itself at least...

elisha · Post by **elisha** » Fri May 16, 2003 11:08 am

I think Tom from XVision Audio found the solution.... I'm going to give it a try today... apparantly, others have had the same problem with other soft/hardware and it had nothing to do with that... it was in Windows.... check this out:
http://www.rme-audio.de/english/faq/10entrye.htm

I think it has to do with this win. limitation and is supposedly easily fixed with cleaning up the "drivers32" folder in the registry...

Thanks!
Mike

elisha · Post by **elisha** » Sat May 17, 2003 3:37 pm

After thinking I had the problem all solved (well, it was partially, anyway) I had all kinds of trouble with boot failures, etc... so I'm back to repartitioning the Hdd and reinstalling XP.

The article from rme-audio is useful info. But now it's clean install time around here with the hopes of the crashless system I have read about that many of you have.