Vinco vs. cheap hardware tube compressors

aMo · Post by **aMo** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 2:26 pm

So, I am probably oing to get a new compressor soon, which I will use primarilly on kick-drums.

I have been recomended getting a tube compressor, but I don't really want to spend that much money.

So, how does the Vinco put up against a hardware tube compressor?
I have so far understood that it puts up pretty good against analog compressors, which is great, but I think I need an excuse to save the money that would be spent on a tube-comp.

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:22 pm

Do you have a good preamp and/or a DI box?

With a DAW, it's much more necessary than a analog tube comp, coz you can always use stuffs like the Vinco and others good numerical emulated compressions inside your DAW if you recorded fine the audio with a good preamp or DI...

Michu · Post by **Michu** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:32 pm

i think
that if you want hardware compressor that would match d-comp, let alone vinco
you'll have to spend quite a lot money
cheapest that comes to mind is tl fatman (1 or 2)
and it is still not true tube compressor,
but solid state compressor with tube gain stage...
and question remains
what are your other parts of signal chain?

Michu · Post by **Michu** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:37 pm

btw

i hope you are aware
that 1176 limiting amplifier
which vinco seems to emulate
is solid state gear?

Post by **garyb** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:26 pm

tubes, schmoobes.
good design is good design,solid state OR analog.(mac OR pc

)
get the best quality you can afford.if you know what to do with the gear,your ears can decide.

i agree with the good advice to concentrate on mic pres and mics.vinco is pretty cheap compared to hardware in it's class.....

otter · Post by **otter** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 2:28 am

keep in mind that it´s a tool you want to use. 1st you should like the sound. 2nd you shuold find it easy to use.3rd it should do erverthing you want it to do.
So the best way to find out what you can do with a tool is to use it once or twice.
Ask your dealer to take it home for one day.
Listen. Turn all knobs in all possible settings. Listen. Use your own kickdrums.Listen.Decide. Do not trust in phoney "xyz-circuit" talk.
Yes,tubes do sound different than solid state. DAW´s sound different again. They differ fx in sound coloring, speed,dynamic curve, features.
But "good" , "bad" ,"better" or "worse" are things that only you can decide.

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aMo · Post by **aMo** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 3:35 pm

Thanx for good answers, they helped..
I downloaded the Vinco demo yesterday and have played with it, it is pretty good, I'm definately getting it soon!

but
What about the Dadev Vtube?
http://www.dadev.com/products_vtube.asp

Is it also worth getting?
What would be it's primary use?

Ganool · Post by **Ganool** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 4:15 pm

VTube is great. I mainly use it for giving my synth-tracks a bit more of life.

Carl.

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:10 pm

V-Tube: check the demo, so you will judge by yourself

Creamw@re's TDrive and TQDrive are good and less expensive (but you'll have to buy the FX Package II, 198€), in case you don't own them...

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marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Thu Mar 06, 2003 7:26 am

Have you though about sonic timework compressorX for Pulsar?

Or the Sharc-One by STW also?

And even, one that i use and love is the X-Machine by Celmo : a full featured channel strip devices... Pretty cheap, efficient, light on dsp.

For me anyway, nothing come close to Vinco when it come to 'pure' compressor, but this is my opinion.

[ This Message was edited by: marcuspocus on 2003-03-06 07:28 ]