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maket · Post by **maket** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:02 am

One thing ,i don't understand,is how work with aux reverb in big mixer?
For example i have mono tracks and i want put one deeper,other at front.One by left side,other in right.
How do i need switch aux at that tracks?
Do i need switch on both aux chanels (left and right)and manipulate by levels of aux signal to mono track?And what will difference with "pre" or "post" reverb aux ?
Or i need convert mono chanel to stereo and swith left to left and right to right?
Sorry,but big mess in my head

Please,anyone ,explain to me how that work

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:08 am

huh? The "big mixer"?? Can't remember much about it... better if you could use the newer SFP mixers if it's possible. But anyway, I can tell you what "pre" and "post" mean. Pre means pre fader, pre everything. So if you switch on Pre, the aux send to the reverb becomes independent of the volume fader. (aux send can be set larger than volume fader) If set on Post, the aux is sent post volume fader, so aux send is always less than the volume fader.

If you want a lot of control over the wet/dry of the reverb, then I definitely recommend using the aux in "pre" mode. That's how I have ALL my projects set up.

And do yourself a favor... get the SFP mixer will ya?

maket · Post by **maket** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 11:53 am

KEN,sanx for your explanation and sure,i will get SFP mixers ,just need to find way to download ,becouse with my dial-up it's will take 20 hours...grrrrrrr.
But i want back to my question:
For example...I connected masterverb to aux mode in stereo,right?
then i connected MONO track to mixer.
From this point i have two aux chanels for one MONO track.Do i need activate both of them ?
And how it works with stereo tracks?
Hope i explained without mess???
Or maybe i will understand it better on example:
i have 3 tracks:
1-stereo drum kit
2-mono bass
3-mono guitar
a)i want put drums deeper
b)i want put bass at front of drums ,little bit to the left side
c)i want put guitar a bit to the right side
next :
to make them same room i need use AUX masterverb,right?
SO,my question-for drums,do i need put left channel to left aux and right to right,or i need use both aux channel for every part of stereo track and just manipulate levels of them?And... do i need safe postitons of stereo track -left extremely to -50 ,right to +50 or make them a bit closely to have wall reflection?(sorry if i'm saing bulshit probably).
For guitar ,if i want put it to right side and give a room.Do i need activate left and right aux and manipulate levels of them or i need acitave only one of them?And wich one then to give guitar right side in room feeling?
Bass mono:
if i want put it to center in front of drums ,what of manipulation give for that most?Do i need give more aux to drums then and less to bass and maybe some inverting phase manipulation???
Conclusion:
How to make mix in one room space with different deep and position feeling.
Hope ,when you read this you did't get headache(becouse i 've got

Post by **hubird** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 12:33 pm

maket, you're making things too complicated.
Just pan your mono instruments as you like, use just one aux send to feed a (stereo) fx, and use multiple and different types of reverb to create different positioning in the mix.
If you have a stereo channel with a stereo sound you can choose to send from the left OR the right side, or you can choose to send from both sides, but than half the send levels.
Hope this helps.

Post by **garyb** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:42 pm

amen.there is nothing tricky here.this works the same in the real world.(hardware)left or right placement is controlled by the pan on the channel strip.more reverb makes thing move to the back,less reverb makes things more forward.

maket · Post by **maket** » Sun Dec 08, 2002 8:59 pm

hello again!
SANX Hubrid! Different reverbs setting for different tracks! that make touch!yes it have tricky garyb!After putting different reverb setting my mix become deeper and i feel space there now!
BTW;wich preset is most sweet for electric bass?

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kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 12:53 am

I usually only reverb the very low end.. like lower than 100hz with very short reverb times, perhaps with a room reverb. Just to let the bass "ring" a little. Really adds lots of presence in the low end. Don't over do it, though cuz you'll go into phasing hell.

Post by **hubird** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 8:39 am

I'm happy that YOU're happy

sometimes people think my name is hubrid (hybrid is the association I think).
But it also can be an occasional type fault...?
Anyway, in fact it's hubird, and if you say this loud and clear you know exactly my name

Don't worry, I'm not mad on someone, I'm just

maket · Post by **maket** » Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:41 pm

Oh..oh oh....sorry Hubird!!! It's a funny ,but i have already edited my last post,becouse when i wrote your name first it was: Hybrid...after while a looked at your name and was sure that i made mistake and wrote Hubrid ,BUT!!!!! YOUR name even better!!!
I'm so terribly sorry HUBIRD!!!! and i'm so glad,that your name sounds like this!!!
(probably my mind stuck with tech names and you give me an idea-i need fresh air and i need listen birds and take conversation with my lovely girl...yeah) TY again