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No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 2:59 pm
by yayajohn
3 Scope Project cards (1 is a booster) Windows 10 64bit Scope PCI v7
My DAWs are not showing any Scope MIDI ports. (Reaper/Ableton)
1. Sequencer MIDI In/Out modules are loaded in the project window before start.
2. MIDI devices are set at Device Manager under "settings"
3. The physical I/O MIDI connections are working.

Troubleshooting:
I have uninstalled/reinstalled all DAWS, Scope, and each card in Device Manager.

At this point I have exhausted all of my known remedies.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Dan

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:22 pm
by valis
Set DAWs to compatibility mode for Win8 and see if the drivers show up.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 3:51 pm
by yayajohn
Good suggestion!
Unfortunately still no workey. :(

Pulling my hair out because I don't recall doing anything to the system, just moved the computer to a different room and the physical midi jacks actually work.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:57 pm
by valis
Something else stealing them before the DAW starts?

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:02 pm
by yayajohn
hmm that might be. I'll look into it tonight. Thanks!

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:06 pm
by valis
Remember to turn off compatibility mode if it didn’t help

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:10 pm
by yayajohn
yes I did that....thanks for the reminder.
Uninstalled motherboard audio and graphics card stuff tonight to no avail.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:10 pm
by valis
Ableton has to be run in compatibility mode for the Scope ASIO as well I believe, and I don't use Reaper so not much help there.

Surely you know how to enable midi within Ableton, can you post a screenshot of the midi/controller page just in case?

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:32 am
by yayajohn
valis wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:10 pm Ableton has to be run in compatibility mode for the Scope ASIO as well I believe, and I don't use Reaper so not much help there.

Surely you know how to enable midi within Ableton, can you post a screenshot of the midi/controller page just in case?
Not true from my experience. I have Ableton running on Win 11 with my Xite and it has been working great.
I would be inclined to pursue that the DAW might be the issue except to me it is not likely since I am getting the same behavior with 2 seperate DAWS.
I'm probably looking at a complete uninstall for Scope with probably a registry hack to erase all data?
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Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:08 am
by valis
Install MIDI-OX and see what shows up in the configuration dialog

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:04 am
by yayajohn
Midi0-OX shows Scope PCI ports! So progress.
I also plugged in my Novation SL USB just to see and the DAWS do not recognize that either.
So something is blocking the MIDI ports in both DAWS.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:26 am
by valis
I'll let GaryB speak up here, I suspect it's still a compatibility mode issue with both of those DAWS, as it's something I recall reading before. In the meantime, you might try an advanced search.

My apologies for not doing one for you, but I'm busy packing a 5 room house and stuck with only my mobile phone, which is less than optimal for the advanced search function.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:15 am
by garyb
yeah, Ableton usually needs to be in win8 compatibility mode, otherwise, it should work....

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:23 am
by yayajohn
Ok no prob valis thanks for the help today.
I'll try the Win8 compatibility thing again. Still trying to disable anything motherboard related to midi.
Gary is that a PCI thing? I haven't had to do that with the Xite.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:05 am
by garyb
no, i don't think it's only a PCI thing.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:57 am
by nebelfuerst
Some time ago, I sent Dante some screenshots and he wrote some pages how to setup ableton.

http://www.hitfoundry.com/issue_29/ab_mast.htm

I use ableton9 on Win7/32 and ableton 9 and 11 on W10 without any issues.
A sequencer dest/source shows up in ableton directly after start.

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:17 am
by yayajohn
So this was a MIDI problem only in the DAW. Scope ASIO has been working fine in Ableton 11 on Win 10/11 without compatibility mode.
The issue was both Ableton and Reaper and other Daw's were not recoginizing Scope MIDI and USB MIDI.
I have since resolved the issue by doing a Windows System Reset.

All is working properly now.
Still don't know what caused the issue but taking special note with each program I reinstall.
(I stupidly did not back up my Scope files and now I have to transfer all of my folders back in whoops heh :oops: )
Thanks for all the help folks

Re: No Scope PCI MIDI in DAW

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 8:03 am
by garyb
well...
i'm glad it's working!