OSX - How do you think it will work?

[auricle]

I'm still in anticipation of an OSX version!

Do you think that it's only the drivers and the Scope environment that will have to be ported to OSX or do you think that all the devices (including the third party ones) will have to be rewritten as well?

[chriskorff]

I've been wondering about this...

At a guess, I'd say the whole lot needs porting — which is obviously no easy task, and would explain why it's taking them so long! I've also wondered whether they'll be able to get XTC/VSTIM (or 'AUM'?) mode working on OS X as well... That can't be easy!

Cheers,

Chris

[darkrezin]

In theory if they make a proper Mac version, the devices shouldn't need to be ported. The old versions of Scope for OS9 used the same device/module files as Windows as far as I know.

[astroman]

well Dark... that's not even half of the rent (as the proverb goes)
you're correct that the 'Scope internal' stuff is identical, but there's a ton of things communicationg with the computer's OS or drivers
every dll and vxd, check the app folder in your SFP directory
it's a serious enterprise, even more as Apple has changed it's flavour of OSX at least 2 times since SC is working on the adaption

cheers, Tom

[darkrezin]

Of course Tom, was not implying otherwise. But the question was about device files Obviously the devices would be useless without the DSP and other support files within the Scope app.

[valis]

At least there won't be fears about having legacy UI code in place with 10.6 discarding with everything else.

[doktorfuture]

I think it will be better on a mac overall. Audio on mac's is soooo much simpler, plus you can create virtual aggregate interfaces of several other interfaces. I hope also that the drivers will be all fresh and clean and will probably be easier to write. I've found OS X hardware drivers to be many times more stable than PC drivers since the # of motherboard variations is less and there are good API's for driver development.

The first time I've used a windows PC for audio in years was for the XITE-1 and I've got a screenshot gallery of weird things that have happened. The scope sometimes pops up with this 'don't mess with the copyright' and then it can't find the hardware until I reboot. The firewire card acts dumb sometimes. Graphics were acting weird until I re-enabled Aero. Lots of stupid 'find the directory' driver installations where vendor installs didn't work right. For some reason I can't start Bidule with the ASIO audio unless the Scope software is running, and I can only use the 'ASIO For All' driver as Bidule just hangs if I use the Scope ASIO driver. It's not like there is a standard place for setting this ASIO stuff up (that I've found). Also, on the PC 'iTunes' gets all jittery when playing into the 'wave device', but Winamp doesn't. I think I shouldn't need to worry about any of this stuff, which is why I mainly went MAC ages ago.

I've probably got 'IRQ conflicts' -- I've never had IRQ conflicts on a Mac Pro or had to deal with a hardware anything, which is just how it should be.

So I am really hopeful it will be awesome on a mac. I'll surely be switching to OS X as soon as it is available.

[garyb]

your system isn't set up properly, doc.

i'd be happy to help, if you want to talk by phone or skype...

[doktorfuture]

That's kind of you Gary. Let me PM you with my skype name.

your system isn't set up properly, doc.

i'd be happy to help, if you want to talk by phone or skype...

[bcslaam]

My whole studio setup is in limbo until I know for sure that my Scope PCI cards will get mac osx support.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this at all? Cards Working on osx that is.

Cheers
Ben

[garyb]

That's kind of you Gary. Let me PM you with my skype name.

sure...

[garyb]

My whole studio setup is in limbo until I know for sure that my Scope PCI cards will get mac osx support.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this at all? Cards Working on osx that is.

Cheers
Ben

that's the plan. nothings for sure until it's released!

[auricle]

Well, OSX support is definitely on the cards (pardon the pun) but it's a case of 'when". The official word is that it's the next thing to come out after 64bit support.

[ristof]

If you write it for OSX 10.5 and above it IS 64 bit compatible already, eg pre-requisite for porting to windows.

[kylie]

So I would not expect OSX before second half. Just guessing.

I would have called you "too optimistic" if you weren't so wise to omit the year...

[auricle]

I don't know - I like to maintain a level of ignorant optimism. So I'm looking forward to the OSX version next week

[AudioIrony]

I can only dream of a DAW setup with SC and Logic on OS X
The thought of routing options in Logic environment + Scope environment makes a little bit of wee come out.

[Fluxpod]

It will be Awsome-Amazing-Unbelievable-Incredible-Wonderfull-Just Working state of mind altering Bliss.

[synthguy]

Will they or do they still make PCI cards at all?

I know some companies such as RME say they do until demand stops, echo and maybe m audio but what about SC?

Any "inside" info here?

[astroman]

if it would be published here, then it wouldn't be inside anymore
you're asking for the impossible

cheers, Tom