krk-ergo-

[firubbi]

http://www.krksys.com/ergo/technology-i ... design.php

is it worth it? they're saying "ERGO doesn’t color the sound or produce an artificially sterile environment. ERGO produces the best mix for a given room; a mix that will translate better to other listening environments, since it was mixed in a “perfect” room."

[Neutron]

you cant fix a room with speakers unless the DSP/EQ can track the position of your head in realtime, (and everyone else in the room)
just make the room decent and forget about things that are starting to cost more than making the room decent.

[firubbi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmns5yl ... re=channel

[Neutron]

impossible without a time machine. sure you can fix the frequency in a certain place, but you are not going to fix crappy reflections and all that other time based problems (or does it come with a 100MS time machine

[garyb]

yeah, you have to fix the room if you want the best results. companies depend on consumers who want quick and easy solutions for their profits....

[firubbi]

gary you told me on a topic that eq can kind'a solve room acoustics problem. so here is krk are using 1024filter. BUT does it color the sound! what would be the cons?

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-prod ... ction.html

[valis]

Eq can be used in situations where you don't have other recourse, like recording an album in a remote location or a foreign studio where you can't control the room. However when you understand the reasons behind the dips & peaks in a room's response, it's clear why eq doesn't actually solve the issue.

If you, for example, have a 80hz 'dip' and a 120hz 'peak' leading you to perceive a B near 120hz as being 'hot' and E near 80hz as being 'nonexistant', your mixing ears would think you need to 'correct' the notes that are too 'hot' or 'dropping out', while in fact the mix itself may be fine. Ok you think, I'll just EQ the monitors. Now that that's done, move 6" to the left or right, and that tonal balance you 'corrected' just went completely awry again, making the whole effort pointless.

[iSiStOy]

Thanks to point that out Valis.
It remembers me I have to check the acoustic response of my small studio and assume some spatial adaptations!

tschuss,

denis

[garyb]

the cons are as valis noted. when using eq to fix the problem, only the spot where the measurement was made will be even nearly accurate amd the filters used to adjust the response will create their own innaccuracies and problems.

[valis]

(and Neutron was correct as well, the source of the problem originates in the time domain--reflections combined in *delayed* form--and no amount of eq alone will correct for that)

[iSiStOy]

Yep! Only one "workaround": adapt the room so to get the minimum bad reflected waveforms back to your ears.

[iSiStOy]

Or change the room

[garyb]

yes, to Neutron, valis and iSiStOy...