Cubase 5 is upon us. :P

[Shroomz~>]

Cubase 5



Mark

[Shroomz~>]

Btw, if you bought Cubase 4.5 very recently there's info on their site about a 'grace period' which I assume means that you'll get v5 free of charge...

Mark

[Shroomz~>]

I take that back. The 'grace period' allows you to upgrade to v5 at a 'special price'.

Cubase 5 Grace Period INFO

[Neutron]

and to all those people who wanted the problems in 4.5 fixed they were heard to say "lol"

[Shroomz~>]

Had the same thought myself.

Lets face it... If they ever managed to get it perfect, they'd all be out of a job. [/conspiracy theory BS]

[Neutron]

it loks rather cool. i like the way they completely stole the interface of melodyne

[braincell]

I particularly like and need including the tempo track in the project window. I will have to get this. Previously, when I altered the arrangement order of parts, it would mess up the tempo changes which were meant to go with that section and I would have to dig into the tempo track and manually copy changes to another place in time.

[Neutron]

yeah im looking for some unsuspecting student to buy it for me

[braincell]

I just checked the upgrade price from 4. It's $238 USD currently. Just in time because I just built a Vista 64-bit computer. I'm sure it is better optimized for that than the 64 bit preview edition is. It says you can load all samples into RAM if you have enough RAM. My current mobo has a 16 gig limit but that is pricey now. I have just 8 gigs.

They have videos now:

http://www.steinberg.net/

[Neutron]

really? i bought 16 GB, 8 for me and 8 for my friends new build for $80 canadian
which is approx "nothing" :p
oh but you could go for the marginally faster DDR3 and pay $800 LOL

64 bit is definitely the way to go, once the few minor problems are fixed up we should in for great stuff.

[Tau]

It does look good, but taking in account Steinberg's pedigree, I'd let it "mature" before upgrading...

[Shroomz~>]

Got to admit, some of the new features DO look seriously cool !! The new drum features & plugs and the new vocal & pitch features/plugs look excellent. Whether they actually are excellent remains to be seen, but it's certainly not a minor update. It looks like there's quite a lot of useful stuff that's been added.

[Neutron]

definately i really like that tempo envelope. the (old version) of melodyne but if it sounds better. good. (melodyne sounds kind of like over stretched acid loops even on 3 semitones.)

now they have lots of money from their yamamasters they can do better honest. i mean its not really version 5 is it there was cubase something (8? i cant remember), then cubase vst 1,2,3, 4, ..5

remember autodesk is on 3ds max 2009 now, of course they dont call it "3ds max 12" because thats a bit embarrassing when they dint fix the bolean big from 1.0. (and it takes ages to load)

photoshop, now they call it "cs4" because "photoshop 12" doesnt sound so great when your basic photoshop resize/crop (which is now super duper multi core compatible) can be done in photoshop 4 before cs3 even finished loading. (photoshop 4, if you have it now it opens as fast as notepad, can do 90% of what you need. keep it around.)

windows, oh its windows 7 because thats what it is. back to windows 3.1 aincient history . screw the silly names.

[braincell]

I remember when Cubase switched to Cubase VST and Greg Ondo from Cubase was giving a workshop. I asked him what VST means and he said "Virtual Studio Technology", so I said "Yes, but what is VST?" Finally he had to just say it is marketing.

[valis]

You know, for people who need stability & reliability it might be best with many software releases these days to pick the last update to the PREVIOUS version as your 'stable' production install to use while working. Wait until they push out the next major update (ie, Cubase 5) then run out and upgrade to the PREVIOUS version before it's no longer available (ie, Cubase4) and run that until that new version hits end of line. Rinse & Repeat.

You'll get the max number of updates under that featureset, and your workarounds for known bugs will stay the same for ages! (I know people that stuck with Logic 5.3 instead of 5.51 due for this very reason, they knew what the bugs were and preferred to live with those instead of new ones for years and years).

[Neil B]

You know, for people who need stability & reliability it might be best with many software releases these days to pick the last update to the PREVIOUS version as your 'stable' production install to use while working. Wait until they push out the next major update (ie, Cubase 5) then run out and upgrade to the PREVIOUS version before it's no longer available (ie, Cubase4) and run that until that new version hits end of line. Rinse & Repeat.

You'll get the max number of updates under that featureset, and your workarounds for known bugs will stay the same for ages! (I know people that stuck with Logic 5.3 instead of 5.51 due for this very reason, they knew what the bugs were and preferred to live with those instead of new ones for years and years).

I suppose that's what I've done. I ran with VST32/5.1 for 8 years, skipped all the SX versions and upgraded to 4.5 last year (too soon for the grace period offer of course!). I got 4.5 at a brilliant price too.
So I'm just getting into the new version, which'll keep me good for another 8 years before I look into upgrading to Cubase 10.6 I'll even be able to use my free bus pass by then to go and buy it.

With Spectrasonics and others promoting major upgrades you have to draw the line somewhere or else you spend all you time on:
Upgrading
Writing to forums about new bugs
Rehashing half finished tracks to the new versions
Playing about with new features (most of which you won't really use)
Re-installing
Pulling your hair out.

And then...... months or years down the line, when you feel comfortable enough with your rig to actually write some music, the next wave of upgrades come out and the cycle begins again.

As Valis said - rinse and repeat.

I'll pass on this for a few years thanks.

[braincell]

I have not had any major problems with recent Cubase upgrades other than the sample rate thing which has been fixed and that didn't bother me as I was using 16 bit at the time.

What I hate is that if you don't upgrade, eventually you could lose your upgrade path discount. I wish they wouldn't do them so often. On the other hand, I like the new features in this one. I skipped Cubase SX3 because it didn't have enough features I wanted.

[Shroomz~>]

I remember when Cubase switched to Cubase VST and Greg Ondo from Cubase was giving a workshop. I asked him what VST means and he said "Virtual Studio Technology", so I said "Yes, but what is VST?" Finally he had to just say it is marketing.

When Cubase was first designed, it wasn't actually designed as a 'Virtual Studio' environment. It was a sequencer & that's all. It was midi only as well with no audio recording & multitracking. Just a midi sequencer. It then evolved into a midi & audio sequencer while still on the Atari. It was only when Cubase moved into the PC market that Steinberg began developing it into what could be considered as a 'Virtual Studio' environment. If you develop a midi sequencer & eventually develop it into an application that for all intents & purposes can be considered as a 'Virtual Studio' environment, why on earth wouldn't you market it as such (re- 'VST')?? Yes, it's marketing, but it's not exactly misleading marketing is it??

Mark

[Shroomz~>]

So I'm just getting into the new version, which'll keep me good for another 8 years before I look into upgrading to Cubase 10.6 I'll even be able to use my free bus pass by then to go and buy it.

Free bus pass...

Maybe Steinberg will start doing discounts for OAPs by then as well Neil...

Mark

[Tau]

I have not had any major problems with recent Cubase upgrades other than the sample rate thing which has been fixed and that didn't bother me as I was using 16 bit at the time.

On the other hand, I was using SX3 for everything, and C4 simply didn't work... The following patches etc. never solved the main issues, and the first review that did work well was 4.5.2 - that I installed only this past week - just in time to see a new upgrade coming up... BTW, had nothing to do with Scope, as I'm using RME on that PC.

Obviously, I haven't been using C4, after all that trouble I began working exclusively with Live+Scope, and have done so for over a year. It's not the be-all end-all of DAWs, but it works for me. C5 does look great, but I won't be beta testing this one... Live 8, I just might (in spite of the unfortunate name...)

I remember Cubase on the Atari, pre VST. A friend of mine had that and I learned the basics of MIDI sequencing on it. At home, I was using Cakewalk 3 for MS-DOS, and it wasn't so nice... Old times indeed!