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adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:22 pm
by bill3107
I have a 21 dsp system now (2 2d gen boards) and a friend of mine have given me a pulsar1 as he doesn't play music anymore. My question is simple : adding 4 dsp may add power so it may be worth it Buuuuuuuuut.... is it a good idea as it is a 1st gen board ? As i often use P100 and A100 for example.... I know a whole system made of 1st gen would not be a good idea. What happens when only one board is 1st gen ? Thanks.

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:44 pm
by MD69
Hi Jo,

As long as it is not the host, it just add dsp power (don't come into play with the PCI communication).

cheers

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:25 pm
by bill3107
great ... I was not sure about it ; thanks for this fast reply ! I will add it this afternoon ...

Jo

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:46 am
by astroman
sorry to disagree, but it will decrease your current PCI bus performance for about 30%
at least that's what I read from the masterverb tests with mixed systems

cheers, Tom

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:48 am
by bill3107
:-?

that would prevent me from adding this board. Even a luna would do a better job so ...

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:35 am
by siriusbliss
still have my orignal P1 and older SRB in my system - not as the host board though - and it hasn't slowed bus speed to any large degree on my system.
It's great to have all the extra I/O.

Greg

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:18 pm
by kylie
bill3107 wrote:that would prevent me from adding this board. Even a luna would do a better job so ...
need one? :)

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:37 pm
by Fluxpod
Just try it out.I have no problems running a pulsar 2 and 2 pulsar1.I reach full dsp load without problems on a dell p4 2.8 with ht on.
Including flexor mods and reverb/delay etc.Atleast for me pci bus overload is a non issue,it never happens in real producing situations...knocks on wooooooood.
I get 12 Masterverbs until overflow.

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:32 pm
by astroman
you'd probably get 16-18 with only 2nd generation boards, but then you'd lack the 8 DSPs of the Pulsar Ones and wouldn't have enough processing power to enjoy them... :D

of course there are no problems with Masterverbs, but Jo has the A100 (probably wants to use > 1 instance) and that thing eats PCI bus cycles for breakfast - you have no idea of it's hunger :o :D
I guess a single instance is about 5 Masterverbs...
it's an exceptional plugin, you just can't leave it out once you know it ;)

cheers, Tom

Re: adding a 1st generation board ?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:36 pm
by bill3107
Yes tom, I use only STW and DAS reverbs and performance really matters ... I will try to exchange it with a luna may be or just keep a 21 dsp system. Let's see what Xite will bring and I will decide what to do (as I use a macbook pro with a presonus lightpipe that receive 32 ADAT from my Scope PC). Thank you guys for your advice !