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Wolf's Kompressor

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:44 pm
by Music Manic
Was just looking into this Compressor after remembering it can act as a frequency compressor.
On this point how does it act in RMS mode? how much of the audio signal does this device have to "hear" and how does it deal with it regarding phase etc?

Would like to know more about using it properly.Tje manual surfaces the uses but I think this is a great device and the only one of its kind, even against VST ones.

If anyone has any tips and tricks I would appreciate hearing them.

Thanks

Re: Wolf's Kompressor

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:28 pm
by nightscope
Music Manic wrote:If anyone has any tips and tricks I would appreciate hearing them.
The tips are in the presets. Wolf's included a whole stack of them covering most of the bases which should help you out.

ns

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:09 am
by firubbi
this compressor is so far very good sounding.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:40 am
by wolf
On this point how does it act in RMS mode?
Technically the same way as it works, if you feed it in peak mode. It simply takes the rms values instead of peak values for the compression amount.
In other words it conforms more to the way the human ear compresses.
For example faster transients aren't taken into account that much -> compression acts more on the "body" of the sound.
how much of the audio signal does this device have to "hear"
as with any compressor you should use as much as possible of the available range to make good use of the treshold parameter. You can let show an input poti to adjust the innput level to your needs.
and how does it deal with it regarding phase etc?
I don't exactly know what you mean here, but there are different possibilities:
1. mono detection (stereo input is summed & used for detection)
2. stereo detection (true stereo -> can lead to different compression on left&right and therefor movements in the stereo image), a nice mode to go wild.
3. mid-side detection, either by feeding the mid signal only into detection stage or
4. both mid & side separately from each other

All detection modes as well as the whole comp are completely phase compensated (all this wouldn't be possible otherwise).
However the 2nd mode can introduce wider & unexpected panning movements, the 4rth mode widens/narrows the stereo image dependant on settings & input.
it can act as a frequency compressor.
Having said that the spectral mode, you mentioned, has no impact on phase between left&right in all cases.
But it *has* an impact on panning and stereo image wideness, if the above mentioned modes are active.
The tips are in the presets.
indeed :-)

best,
Wolfgang

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:08 am
by firubbi
hi wolf,
sure you're planing to do something for xite-1. Kompressor sounds very well... so i was thinking if you could make something like MD4 :) or even better.
thanks

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:03 am
by wolf
firubbi wrote:something like MD4 :)
Do you mean the Minidisk recorder from Yamaha ?

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:37 am
by firubbi
MD4 from tc electronic.

Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:13 am
by wolf
ah, I see :-)

Mulitband compression isn't on my table yet.
It's not really an area, I'm interested in .. maybe if a nice extra idea pops up ;)

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:39 am
by firubbi
will make a wish list :)