Scope ASIO

husker · Post by **husker** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:29 pm

Just read an interesting comment from Craig Anderton in a t.c. electronics konnekt 24d review - for those that complain about CW software/drivers - don't forget we already have very good ASIO

"In a previous post, I tested several programs with the Konnekt 24D, and was able to get reliable operation with 128 samples (and even 64 samples with Tracktion), but couldn't get Sonar 6 to work reliably with anything less than 256 samples.

This raised a few eyebrows on the Sonar forum, so I did some extra testing. I tested Sonar 6 with the Creamware SCOPE interface and got reliable operation over ASIO at 3 milliseconds, and with the E-Mu 1820m ASIO at 4 milliseconds This was a somewhat more complex testing environment that the other tests, as it had a few drum tracks and an AmpliTube2 plug-in.

Therefore, it seems the Sonar latency issue is related to the driver in the Konnekt 24D. Scott from ADK pointed out that RME ended up having to do some driver tweaks for Sonar; I seem to recall someone at Creamware saying basically the same thing.

This may be one of those "1.0" deals. For example, it took a few revs before the 1820m drivers were rock solid with Sonar. But I don't know if this is something in the Konnekt 24D, or in the way it interacts with my machine."

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/sho ... 808&page=3

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:55 pm

what else would you expect from a company who's CTO praises VISTA like the holy grail ?

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:22 pm

nice one

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:43 am

I dont praise Vista.

damn, I dont even have it on any on my machines.

I refuse to upgrade from my windows 3.11, or my cubase from from the ST

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:20 pm

my apologies to Me$$iah forgetting about his nick, oops

the $$ aspect took my attention away

cheers, Tom
missing my stupid Win98 since I installed Win2K on the Scope machine, just to be able to try out a couple of 'modern' plugins...

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:55 pm

Me$$iah wrote:I dont praise Vista.

damn, I dont even have it on any on my machines.

I refuse to upgrade from my windows 3.11, or my cubase from from the ST

heehe
wow you are really kind of futuristic type of guy?

DOS 6.22 still rulez, but driver situation is not as good as it could be at the moment.

seriously the step from win98 to 2000/XP was a good one. 98 harly worked for more than one day without a crash.

XP is rock solid these days, the only thing that su**s with it is that you need to reinstall it once a year because registry and other stuff fills up with crappy entries which slow down your system.
That never really changed with any ms os.

apart from directx 10 I see no point for an vista upgrade.

transparent windows - no way

husker · Post by **husker** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:22 pm

OK back on subject

The saga of the drivers for the Konnekt 24D is quite interesting - a lot of problems with Mac's especially. It is a useful reminder that even with a lot of resources, it very difficult to bring a new product to market AND achieve reliablity. FireWire especially is a bit of a nightmare (and USB of course, but that seems have been abandoned for audio thankfully).

Another intertesting aspect is that while even while ASIO buffer is set to 64 samples (and around 2 ms latency) the actual latency once it gets through the various layers and FireWire is around 15ms - ouch!

So don't take for granted what we have with the current PCI Scope solution - a replacement that gets anywhere near the quality and reliability is a long way off, and going to take a lot of investment from SonicCore - are they up to it?