Well w/ the way Tube EQ's, Filters, Warmers, Modular Versions, and Mixers have been the device du 'jour 'round here lately, it made me think of how I could emulate my old Moog Lab Series Synth Amp / Mixer. Shroomz's VM-1242 is an awesome mixer for recording, EQ'ing sampled content, and all around warmth for virtual vintage kit. But as a synth junkie I found myself feverish 4 a filter mixer, similar to the controlled sound of my old behemoth Moog. I really wanted storable presets that could be mapped to certain presets of the synthesizers so when i load a synth pre., it's corresponding filter options, and FX, get loaded as well.
The drive circuit is warm, and can be doubled for more percussive textures. The filter options are endless. Any filter you got , it will take. Along w/ a multitude of devices and FX.
The drive circuit is the core of this FAT BASTARD. I am so close to heaven now, I'm gonna sell my clothes.
DAW #1 is the DAS Modular Mixer, DAW #2 is the Mehdi Touzani Synth Mixer, and DAW 3# is the VM-1242 for sampled content.
We will be recording tonight for the sake of it, so I shall see just how FAT this BASTARD really is. Exit stage right..........................................................................
Mehdi Touzani Valve Synth Mixer
Mehdi Touzani Valve Synth Mixer
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They were too big to show you. Plus Mehdi by law, must conduct some radioactive testing for OSHA the American equivalent of Poltically correct safety.
There is a bottom half I will photograph 4 you on my first break, as there is some serious trim here tonight, so the batteries 4 the camera crew are charging.
I haven't had the chance to crank it yet, just got it on this slow ass laptop that's here. But the timing was perfect as I was prepared. I simply made a copy of the project that I used prior to tonight, and removed the mixers I was using in anticipation. I must have sent Mehdi 12 emails in different languages saying that " You're Killing Me. "
First set is @ 2200 hours Pacific Time. I can't wait to hear this. Through my headphones it sounds FUCKIN' FATTTT ! The Barbettas and the Subs, w/ the Rotary cabinet are gonna smoke. I also must thank Shroomz / SHARC 4 updating the VM-1242 also. So the last few days have been hectic. I have stored LP Vintage filters on each input, that I will tweak as I play, then store and experiment further. See, that's my reward for practicing my parts to the tee. That way I enjoy the Trim, cocktails, and storing as I go. No wasted time in my Corral. The MT Mixer is on DAW #1, the VM-1242 is on DAW #2, life is good, and my balls are definately smokin' tonight.
I will keep you guys posted, and as the good General said......................................................................................................................................
There is a bottom half I will photograph 4 you on my first break, as there is some serious trim here tonight, so the batteries 4 the camera crew are charging.
I haven't had the chance to crank it yet, just got it on this slow ass laptop that's here. But the timing was perfect as I was prepared. I simply made a copy of the project that I used prior to tonight, and removed the mixers I was using in anticipation. I must have sent Mehdi 12 emails in different languages saying that " You're Killing Me. "
First set is @ 2200 hours Pacific Time. I can't wait to hear this. Through my headphones it sounds FUCKIN' FATTTT ! The Barbettas and the Subs, w/ the Rotary cabinet are gonna smoke. I also must thank Shroomz / SHARC 4 updating the VM-1242 also. So the last few days have been hectic. I have stored LP Vintage filters on each input, that I will tweak as I play, then store and experiment further. See, that's my reward for practicing my parts to the tee. That way I enjoy the Trim, cocktails, and storing as I go. No wasted time in my Corral. The MT Mixer is on DAW #1, the VM-1242 is on DAW #2, life is good, and my balls are definately smokin' tonight.
I will keep you guys posted, and as the good General said......................................................................................................................................
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Alot easier than that one. This thing is so much fun. So far I have experimented w/ a basic 4 pole stock CW filter where I set the LFO's to sweep across the speakers while the Rotary is kickin' the B2003. No degradation in the audio w/ that filter, so crank up a little more grit, viola !! You just dial in the FAT on this sucker from several different sources. My synths have now taken the crown from the almighty Oberheims. But,...those two through here? Fuck. That would be fatter than those 800 lb. people you see on the National Enquirer !!
This is so modular w/o being in the modular window shell, just consider your filters as little tweakable pictures to store away 4 a FATTENING day.
My tip for this is to delete all FX. Start from your drive circuit to get a good signal, then add your filters. Chances are, you will be deleting all of that chorus/ flange bull shit anyway. Once the filters and the drive circuit are FAT. Then you add your modulation type of FX if need be. I am bleeding in a little bit on AUX #2. As I always save the Delays 4 the last effect in the chain. That way my echo doesn't echo anything but already FAT signals. These DAWg's Will Hunt !
Gotta Go,
This is so modular w/o being in the modular window shell, just consider your filters as little tweakable pictures to store away 4 a FATTENING day.
My tip for this is to delete all FX. Start from your drive circuit to get a good signal, then add your filters. Chances are, you will be deleting all of that chorus/ flange bull shit anyway. Once the filters and the drive circuit are FAT. Then you add your modulation type of FX if need be. I am bleeding in a little bit on AUX #2. As I always save the Delays 4 the last effect in the chain. That way my echo doesn't echo anything but already FAT signals. These DAWg's Will Hunt !
Gotta Go,
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That was a good Tuesday night, as usual there are hordes of tourists. On the strip most bands play jive ass, thrown together to make a buck, kinda bands. Usually w/ a lame chick singer, although some are talented, they never want to rehearse enough to sound good, or they have a lame pre recorded set of weak songs.
We opened w/Tarkus from Emerson,Lake & Palmer. Then money by Pink Floyd, and other keyboard heavy classic rock tunes. The audience was grateful, as they heard many bands that were weak and un-polished. My agreement was to rehearse until the parts were perfect. Let's face it, even I am impressed when I see a cover band w/ the right sounds and well produced. That's what it's all about IMHO. Noone cares if you have fast fingers, just do the solo in respect for the composer correctly. For instance the guitar solo on money is a classic, our guitarist whined as I lashed him throughout rehearsals for being lazy, and lacking the proper gear. But when he did the solo as I suggested, everyone in the audience was playing air guitar.
Well this mixer is so good I am waiting for everyone to leave so I can practice all day and sleep @ noon. Mehdi is awaiting requests for fixes and such. I don't have any, as everything I tried worked, and the faders are seen w/ the lights on rather well. I am interested in the sound out front, and that's where Cubase comes in handy. I have a 60 second loop of sounds and pres. that cover the frequency spectrum from top to bottom, as I walk the room.
I have to go play now, and there appears to be a miniature glass covered w/ frost by the wait- tail cocktress station, ( sorry a Fruedian slip, it's cocktail waitress dummy ) so I shall enjoy my rewards, and the spoils of victory achieved here.
All I can say is thanks Mehdi, and Creamware should thank you also. Princes keyboard player has sponsors, and free gear, and he wants some cards pronto. I guess his 2 x Receptor Ultra racks are good for Sampled content, but the Creamware synths, especially through the Valve mixer, have convinced him to invest. As sponsors rarely buy gear that isn't Korg, Yamaha, Roland, and Peavey.
I am on the front lines of battle 4 Creamware, I feel it is my duty to promote their products, I wish they would help me out w/ T-shirts, and other promotional concessions. I do have a hideous black t-shirt w/ a little green unknown scope decal. This will not work in the USA, you must be proud and loud, or you can sink and dog-paddle around while crappy products flood the shelves. But I suppose it's a bad time to try a little yankee marketing strategy.
Mehdi, these guys don't believe me, send a demo to the Z, so my brothers can have some fun w/ synths and modular creations.
Cheery-O,
We opened w/Tarkus from Emerson,Lake & Palmer. Then money by Pink Floyd, and other keyboard heavy classic rock tunes. The audience was grateful, as they heard many bands that were weak and un-polished. My agreement was to rehearse until the parts were perfect. Let's face it, even I am impressed when I see a cover band w/ the right sounds and well produced. That's what it's all about IMHO. Noone cares if you have fast fingers, just do the solo in respect for the composer correctly. For instance the guitar solo on money is a classic, our guitarist whined as I lashed him throughout rehearsals for being lazy, and lacking the proper gear. But when he did the solo as I suggested, everyone in the audience was playing air guitar.
Well this mixer is so good I am waiting for everyone to leave so I can practice all day and sleep @ noon. Mehdi is awaiting requests for fixes and such. I don't have any, as everything I tried worked, and the faders are seen w/ the lights on rather well. I am interested in the sound out front, and that's where Cubase comes in handy. I have a 60 second loop of sounds and pres. that cover the frequency spectrum from top to bottom, as I walk the room.
I have to go play now, and there appears to be a miniature glass covered w/ frost by the wait- tail cocktress station, ( sorry a Fruedian slip, it's cocktail waitress dummy ) so I shall enjoy my rewards, and the spoils of victory achieved here.
All I can say is thanks Mehdi, and Creamware should thank you also. Princes keyboard player has sponsors, and free gear, and he wants some cards pronto. I guess his 2 x Receptor Ultra racks are good for Sampled content, but the Creamware synths, especially through the Valve mixer, have convinced him to invest. As sponsors rarely buy gear that isn't Korg, Yamaha, Roland, and Peavey.
I am on the front lines of battle 4 Creamware, I feel it is my duty to promote their products, I wish they would help me out w/ T-shirts, and other promotional concessions. I do have a hideous black t-shirt w/ a little green unknown scope decal. This will not work in the USA, you must be proud and loud, or you can sink and dog-paddle around while crappy products flood the shelves. But I suppose it's a bad time to try a little yankee marketing strategy.
Mehdi, these guys don't believe me, send a demo to the Z, so my brothers can have some fun w/ synths and modular creations.
Cheery-O,
Ah ! here is the thread 
Thanks Jimmy.
Mehdi
ps : here are the faders
Thanks Jimmy.
it is not finished yet, and also this :scope4live wrote:Mehdi, these guys don't believe me, send a demo to the Z, so my brothers can have some fun w/ synths and modular creations.
scope4live wrote: ..., by law, must conduct some radioactive testing for OSHA the American equivalent of Poltically correct safety.
Mehdi
ps : here are the faders
No equal in that department.
Filters are saved as presets. So using Wolf's MIDI Tool Box one can do amazing things w/ this synth mixer. It actually works well w/ sampled content as well. But this was built as an alternative to EQ's . I just have never used EQ on a synth, rather filters.
Having PsyQ w/ softclip on the master stereo insert is definately icing on the cake. Besides PsyQ acts as a combination EQ / Filter amyway. I can clip the lows, mids, or highs, at the outputs.
Constant motion was the pretext for this device.
This DAW'g when concieved attacked the creator it was so fierce.
Filters are saved as presets. So using Wolf's MIDI Tool Box one can do amazing things w/ this synth mixer. It actually works well w/ sampled content as well. But this was built as an alternative to EQ's . I just have never used EQ on a synth, rather filters.
Having PsyQ w/ softclip on the master stereo insert is definately icing on the cake. Besides PsyQ acts as a combination EQ / Filter amyway. I can clip the lows, mids, or highs, at the outputs.
Constant motion was the pretext for this device.
This DAW'g when concieved attacked the creator it was so fierce.
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Scofield Kid,
They actually have a little newspaper here where all lounge acts / headliners are shown. Lounge acts are always inacurate because so many bands fall apart here. This is a 2 week showcase, where the contractor snagged an opening and is hoping to book a bunch of weeks. That's why I hit them 4 a high price. I am a mercinary who works everywhere w/ all shifts, but turn down more work than accept. I hate playing w/ bands that just throw things together to grab some contracts. This one was right up my alley though.
I woodshedded the song back in 1974 along w/ numerous piano solos, and other songs as well. I was in everyone's opening act back then, and southern Rock ruled the scene. Since that was easy money I would woodshed my favorite music just to keep sharp. I did see it transcribed in Keyboard magazine some 15 years ago, but it was only a small section, and poorly written I suggest wood shedding to everyone. Once you got the song down, you never forget it, 4 one has to work extra hard to get it right. But we also do " lucky Man, Karn Evil #9, From the Beginning, trilogy, and take a pebble". The drummer sorry to say is no Carl Palmer, but he tries nonetrheless. We also do Yes, Pink Floyd, Sytx, Head East, and anything with FAT BASTARD Synths in it.
You should hear the b2003 through a real rotary cabinet and Mehdi's mixer. The Barbaian never sounded so good. Tarkus achieves that Green Eyed Lady kinda thunk from the percussion, then simply add the key noise and no overdrive from the organ emu, as it is weak and inaccurate. Use Mehdi's drive circuit and add filters from the dozens of options available from Adern, Zarg, CW, and SpaceF. You can emulate any vintage sound you desire.
Most are happy w/ the overdrive on the b2003, I found it laughable, but I guess someone who made it thought it to be accurate. I have used pre amps and rotaries since my first leslie back in 1972. I saw Emerson live and knew what I needed to do.
I haven't the time to transcribe any of ELPs work, but if you can play his style, you will have learned a great deal about real organ technique.
I Wish You Well, PM Me When You Have A Week Your'e Coming, I will show you how I punish the weak here w/ synths and samples.
They actually have a little newspaper here where all lounge acts / headliners are shown. Lounge acts are always inacurate because so many bands fall apart here. This is a 2 week showcase, where the contractor snagged an opening and is hoping to book a bunch of weeks. That's why I hit them 4 a high price. I am a mercinary who works everywhere w/ all shifts, but turn down more work than accept. I hate playing w/ bands that just throw things together to grab some contracts. This one was right up my alley though.
I woodshedded the song back in 1974 along w/ numerous piano solos, and other songs as well. I was in everyone's opening act back then, and southern Rock ruled the scene. Since that was easy money I would woodshed my favorite music just to keep sharp. I did see it transcribed in Keyboard magazine some 15 years ago, but it was only a small section, and poorly written I suggest wood shedding to everyone. Once you got the song down, you never forget it, 4 one has to work extra hard to get it right. But we also do " lucky Man, Karn Evil #9, From the Beginning, trilogy, and take a pebble". The drummer sorry to say is no Carl Palmer, but he tries nonetrheless. We also do Yes, Pink Floyd, Sytx, Head East, and anything with FAT BASTARD Synths in it.
You should hear the b2003 through a real rotary cabinet and Mehdi's mixer. The Barbaian never sounded so good. Tarkus achieves that Green Eyed Lady kinda thunk from the percussion, then simply add the key noise and no overdrive from the organ emu, as it is weak and inaccurate. Use Mehdi's drive circuit and add filters from the dozens of options available from Adern, Zarg, CW, and SpaceF. You can emulate any vintage sound you desire.
Most are happy w/ the overdrive on the b2003, I found it laughable, but I guess someone who made it thought it to be accurate. I have used pre amps and rotaries since my first leslie back in 1972. I saw Emerson live and knew what I needed to do.
I haven't the time to transcribe any of ELPs work, but if you can play his style, you will have learned a great deal about real organ technique.
I Wish You Well, PM Me When You Have A Week Your'e Coming, I will show you how I punish the weak here w/ synths and samples.
Conquerors Reign, a battleworthy name,
www.spacef-devices.com I'm not sure if he has decided to sell it yet. I had it custom made 4 me. But this is the mixer 4 anything that uses more than just presets from some dude.
It is rather deep, but so is Scope, that's why we are all here. I will ask him if I could give out his email. I will PM you if that's O.K. If not, just watch his site as it should be available.
I have only tried 3 different filters on my synths, and I can't explain the freedom this brings. A free synth called Saturn is used by many 4 it uses little DSP, but it's Oscillators are quite strong ( 2 x ). This synth w/ a basic FAT Saw preset sounds incredible when using 2 instances of it. That's why I chose so many mono channels. I send the stereo outs into seperate mono channels, each having different filters ( 4 x ). Saturn suddenly sounds as big as my Oberheims. And that is b4 the drive circuit settings treat the signal. You must demo this if you like FAT Synths. There is no equal that exists that I am aware of.
www.spacef-devices.com I'm not sure if he has decided to sell it yet. I had it custom made 4 me. But this is the mixer 4 anything that uses more than just presets from some dude.
It is rather deep, but so is Scope, that's why we are all here. I will ask him if I could give out his email. I will PM you if that's O.K. If not, just watch his site as it should be available.
I have only tried 3 different filters on my synths, and I can't explain the freedom this brings. A free synth called Saturn is used by many 4 it uses little DSP, but it's Oscillators are quite strong ( 2 x ). This synth w/ a basic FAT Saw preset sounds incredible when using 2 instances of it. That's why I chose so many mono channels. I send the stereo outs into seperate mono channels, each having different filters ( 4 x ). Saturn suddenly sounds as big as my Oberheims. And that is b4 the drive circuit settings treat the signal. You must demo this if you like FAT Synths. There is no equal that exists that I am aware of.
I was comparing the stock Creamware filters in an A/B listening test, and found that the filters from SFP had more flavors than the Sherman Filter Bank I use. The Sherman is nice, but it too must now be properly buried in my overgrown Project studio.
RDII Modules, Flexor RD, and SpaceF modules will be my new flavors. For me to do this in hardware, that is making a patch bay w/ several analog hardware filters, would have been in the thousands. Now I have one for much, much cheaper where program changes re-route my audio in real time and my MIDI as well. This is awesome if you like FAT analog sounding gear that is.
I have used the tube filters from Zarg's RDII Modules, Flexor RD modules, SpaceF's stuff, and stock CW filters like the PEQ 4 S, and the 4 pole stereo and have made my synths amazingly FAT and quite new, as I have grown fond of the WAV Oscillators w/ their ability to play WAV files and store it as a preset. Reversed Cubase distorted Hendrix style licks, anything you desire.
Drum samples from LSAD library are way in yo' face, and rather crispy sounding, especially when SSB Modulator is in the loop so to say. This mixer gives me incredible flexability and I'm sure nothing else out there can do what this baby does. The sound of the Drive circuit alone on every input was well worth the asking price. This is a synth players dream mixer 4 sure.
Mehdi please don't sell any of these to the members. I will pay you extra to lose it's design.
One could run several low DSP synths on here like Prisma, and Saturn and be shocked how the " FAT BASTARD " makes those little toys sound incredibly larger by adding valve + filters.
This Mixer Live Is Shockingly FAT, Bowen synths have risen to the call also, as they can load more complex routings since I deleted all of their filters and FX. When I play CEM's from ProWave or Solaris w/o any effects, then go through the drive circuit on the mixer inputs, then the filters i desribed, you will quickly delete all of that chorus / flange / delay jive that should not be on the synth anyway IMHO. These sound FAT dry or wet. But dry you get a better signal to manipulate post drive circuitry. CEM's through the above filters is quite large.
Thanks Mehdi For A Brilliant Design For Synths And Samples,
RDII Modules, Flexor RD, and SpaceF modules will be my new flavors. For me to do this in hardware, that is making a patch bay w/ several analog hardware filters, would have been in the thousands. Now I have one for much, much cheaper where program changes re-route my audio in real time and my MIDI as well. This is awesome if you like FAT analog sounding gear that is.
I have used the tube filters from Zarg's RDII Modules, Flexor RD modules, SpaceF's stuff, and stock CW filters like the PEQ 4 S, and the 4 pole stereo and have made my synths amazingly FAT and quite new, as I have grown fond of the WAV Oscillators w/ their ability to play WAV files and store it as a preset. Reversed Cubase distorted Hendrix style licks, anything you desire.
Drum samples from LSAD library are way in yo' face, and rather crispy sounding, especially when SSB Modulator is in the loop so to say. This mixer gives me incredible flexability and I'm sure nothing else out there can do what this baby does. The sound of the Drive circuit alone on every input was well worth the asking price. This is a synth players dream mixer 4 sure.
Mehdi please don't sell any of these to the members. I will pay you extra to lose it's design.
One could run several low DSP synths on here like Prisma, and Saturn and be shocked how the " FAT BASTARD " makes those little toys sound incredibly larger by adding valve + filters.
This Mixer Live Is Shockingly FAT, Bowen synths have risen to the call also, as they can load more complex routings since I deleted all of their filters and FX. When I play CEM's from ProWave or Solaris w/o any effects, then go through the drive circuit on the mixer inputs, then the filters i desribed, you will quickly delete all of that chorus / flange / delay jive that should not be on the synth anyway IMHO. These sound FAT dry or wet. But dry you get a better signal to manipulate post drive circuitry. CEM's through the above filters is quite large.
Thanks Mehdi For A Brilliant Design For Synths And Samples,
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I plan on making it weigh a ton !
It is designed dynamically , so it allocates resources according to what's being used or not. Since the options are extreme w/ this, you might want a different design.
Right now I have all 3 x AUX's loaded w/ Step Chorus( glitter FX ) SSB Modulator ( Hummer commercial FX, and Phaser ) and SpaceF's Echo 35
Master FX are PsyQ, and Softclip )
PEQ 4 S, 4 Pole S, MIDI pole S.
Plus 9 more filters from Flexor RD, Zarg RD Modules II, and SpaceF's Black Box II.
2 x ProWave's w/ 7 voices
Six-String w/ 6 voices
ProOne w/ mono presets @ 4 voices
SE-1x externally inputted and mixed w/ ProOne
That's 65 % using 3 x Professionals ( Type II's )
The sound of the Valves is phenominal for this application. They are on every input and have amount and muliplication features.
This Dog'll Hunt.
It is designed dynamically , so it allocates resources according to what's being used or not. Since the options are extreme w/ this, you might want a different design.
Right now I have all 3 x AUX's loaded w/ Step Chorus( glitter FX ) SSB Modulator ( Hummer commercial FX, and Phaser ) and SpaceF's Echo 35
Master FX are PsyQ, and Softclip )
PEQ 4 S, 4 Pole S, MIDI pole S.
Plus 9 more filters from Flexor RD, Zarg RD Modules II, and SpaceF's Black Box II.
2 x ProWave's w/ 7 voices
Six-String w/ 6 voices
ProOne w/ mono presets @ 4 voices
SE-1x externally inputted and mixed w/ ProOne
That's 65 % using 3 x Professionals ( Type II's )
The sound of the Valves is phenominal for this application. They are on every input and have amount and muliplication features.
This Dog'll Hunt.