Opinions on the best eq and compressor for scope

bcslaam · Post by **bcslaam** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:10 am

Hi
I was hoping to hear peoples opinions on the SOUND quality in particular of all available eq and compression devices for scope. Asthetics are not an issue here.

I have vinco and think its almost on par with my UAD-1 urie-ln. But i have no other hq ones.

I tried ISON demo and its top end definately sounded better than the ones in stm 4896. Bottom end also seems to behave more musically.

I'm interested in devices that can be used on many channels, not so much the overly dsp hungry ones, although i realise there will be a bit of grunt required. I run a 25 dsp system.

I know there are similar threads but I was hoping for a sorta mild shootout.

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erminardi · Post by **erminardi** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:38 am

Try this, I like it because it sounds very good, is not DSP eater & is free: http://dev.d-mute.com/dcomp.zip

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MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:12 pm

Try my devices ;o) - especially the LC1 & MOVeq. Tong & DynaMyth sound very good too, but are a bit complicated.

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Eric Dahlberg · Post by **Eric Dahlberg** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:46 pm

Though the VinCo & 1176LN look the same, the VinCo sounds more like the SSL & DBX VCA-type compressors. I find it to be more flexible than the 1176LN is. Add the UAD-1 LA2A to your mix & I can't imagine you needing much else.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:31 pm

With Vinco, d-mute and De-Vice, there are pretty good compressors for Scope, but a quality and light on DSP EQ is another question, the DeVice ISOn seems too heavy for extensive usage...
I like the CW graph eq very much, but its also very heavy on the DSP load....

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:34 pm

Hey Eric,

I did some sound samples with Vinco for fun that sound nearly like the Urei 1176 sound:

check out this thread:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110148

By the way: I love the Orbitone compressors . They are also very good but something completly different than Vinco...
The quad-band multicompressor is very good for final mix and mastering.

It depends on the needs.

I think all these compressors for Scope are top-notch-quality.

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bcslaam · Post by **bcslaam** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:48 pm

I see no mention of sonic timeworks stuff.

I will endevour to AB a few including those and post my results.

I will try the d-comp again I have it somewhere.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:04 pm

I do not have the Sonic Timework stuff... so I would be happy to see some A/B results...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:17 pm

if I remember this right those devices were programmed before it was common knowledge that spreading DSP code across chip boundary produces a few samples offset, hence they (may) have some phase issues.

Probably depends on project structure and loading sequence, it's at best unpredictable.
That does NOT mean the devices 'sound' bad and it may be irrelevant in 90% of all the applications - yet those facts hurt sales significantly.

This does NOT apply to the STW reverbs by Warp69 (P100/A100), which are from a later production date.

I like their Mastering Compressor a lot, plain and simple (as I can't stand surgery for loudness).
Works as a no-brainer with moderate settings, ear-ringing when pushed too far (no big news...)
In between it can add a little roughness (or a slightly 'aggressive' tone) imho.
Softknee version eats (almost?) 4 DSP.

cheers, Tom

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Tau · Post by **Tau** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:22 am

Just for the sake of argument, I have never tried DAS plugs, or ISON, and usually compress with Vinco or standard SFP comps (D-Comp too, very good for my bass guitar.

For EQ, I found that Wolf's SpEQtrum is truly excellent, both in sound quality and ease of use. You get 8 switchable bands of EQ, each with its own Q, gain and filter type controls, and you can visualize the filter curve over a real-time Spectrum Analyzer. The analyzer takes up a lot of DSP, but it can be switched off and unloaded to save resources. Also, SpEQtrum comes in many flavours: a stand-alone spectrum analyser, an 8-band EQ without the analysis, etc.

I think this is a bit of an overlooked plug-in, maybe because of a less-than-aggressive marketing strategy. I was basically interested in the Spectrum Analyser at first, but I found the EQ so good and flexible, I just use it on all types of material! Not sure if there's a demo, but it's worth checking out. Besides, the full version will come with YOUR name on it, instead of an anagram of some copyrighted brand name: how cool is that?

Cheers,

T

Post by **garyb** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:40 am

yes, we are very fortunate to have some really excellent developers here. Wolf's stuff is certainly first rate and his eq is excellent.

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:15 am

On 2006-09-11 09:40, garyb wrote:
we are very fortunate to have some really excellent developers here.

without a doubt

CS · Post by CS » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:09 am

i bought DAS plugins (vintage bundle and SL9000). The EQs are very good sounding - and easy to use, which is not really the case of the SL9000... but they (at DAS) can help you if you need. As far as sound is concerned, this plugin is really fantastic, and its versatility very impressive. You can try them on their website.

my 2 cents,

cs.

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:27 am

I don't have much experience with other eq's (except the stock CW ones) but the Sonic Timeworks Vintage EQ is very good to my ears

Really smooth filtering, very musical.