BX_Digital

Crickstone · Post by **Crickstone** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:50 am

Coming close to making a decision on the summer sale....what do people think of the bx_digital?

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:15 am

i have tried it (demo) for the challenge, and i would say that it sounds amazing on your mixes. If you test it you will find out(it need time though) that this tool can give magic to your mixes in a strange way. I am not very used to this kind of technics (M/S) but for sure it can help your mixes. you can simply ear it ! Like many plug ins (ssl9000 from DAS, optimaster and all multiband compressors, dynatube,...), it need time to get the sound but... it can become fantastic !

Jo

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:12 am

On 2006-08-30 07:50, Crickstone wrote:
Coming close to making a decision on the summer sale....what do people think of the bx_digital?

go for it

i'd bought it few month ago and it help me doing all my mastering alot. MS eq is a fantastic concept and bx has done it better. it was a bit costly but worth every penny.

petal · Post by **petal** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:01 am

I just got it today, and my initial tests are very promissing indeed.
I have never really been able to achieve transparency in my sound, the BX seems to be the ticket to transparencyheaven

The effect is subtle and yet mindblowing.

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gainman · Post by **gainman** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:18 am

No much time left for the summer special...

Where can one get the demo version from?

At http://www.brainworx-music.de, under "Demos" there's only movies, and at the CWA shop there is no link to any demo.

Crickstone · Post by **Crickstone** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:28 am

I bought it last week and was amazed early with the Fallen Angel demo that I had and I'm still impressed with bx...go for it...

petal · Post by **petal** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:58 am

As far as I know, there is no demoversion available.

steffensen · Post by **steffensen** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:22 am

the contest they had before, was based upon the demo versions tho, wasnt it?

katano · Post by **katano** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:38 am

yep, maybe here:
ftp://ftp.creamware.de/Software/Scope_f ... l_contest/

don't know if it still works... and i've bought it before the contest anyway...

cheerz
roman

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:07 am

if the demo-version in the 'contest folder' is made like CWA's time limited demos, then the procedure should be something like this:

Download and install the demo, then contact Ralf with the request string you get on initial loading.
He will then generate the matching activation key (time-limited) for your board and return it via mail.

The demo clock will (in the 'best' case) run downwards from the moment you install the software, it may even start from key generation on.
You cannot request it in advance to 'wait for the best moment' to try it out.

At least that was the mode of operation with CWA's automatically generated demos back then.

You had to request one (and only one) at a time, try it and request the next one after the first expired, and so on.
I remember I downloaded half a dozen once (of course without reading instructions carefully... how smart...) and 4 of them timed out even before I could install them

Otherwise ask Ralf about the timer before actually requesting the key.
Since manual key generation is a significant amount of work, it may not be applicable at all anymore - since the contest has finished.

cheers, Tom

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gainman · Post by **gainman** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:26 pm

Well, I downloaded the file, installed it and... it didn't work!

It keeps asking for the key all the time and doesn't process any sound.

Probably, the way to go is to ask for the time limited activation key as you say, but I'm afraid it's going to be too late to test it before the 17th.

As a substitute for a real demo we'll have to pay attention to the videos in brainworx's site!

There is also quite a positive feedback from current users.

Crickstone · Post by **Crickstone** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:01 pm

Don't hesitate really at the current price you can't go wrong. I have Powercore and they have a similar mastering plug the MD3 that I demoed and it is $1,245 US which was nice but I found the BX to be more musical if you know what I mean. I did the Fallen Angel demo on both and I never could get the same airiness and transparency that I did with the BX....

Post by **garyb** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:44 pm

yeah, it's a no brainer.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:14 pm

On 2006-09-15 13:26, gainman wrote:
Well, I downloaded the file, installed it and... it didn't work!

It keeps asking for the key all the time and doesn't process any sound...

as explained above it worked perfectly

not only does it ask you, but it also presents the rquest string supposed to be transmitted to CWA, who then will return the matching activation key.
that is the very same procedure as in any challenge response system.
... and no, I don't think Ralf will be generating keys over the weekend - the dude needs a rest sometimes - everyone here wants him to stay healthy and in good condition

cheers, Tom

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:05 pm

On 2006-09-15 21:14, astroman wrote:
everyone here wants him to stay healthy and in good condition
cheers, Tom

Yes indeed.
Also I found bx it a necessary software if you plan to do mastering yourself. Moreover it sound sweet.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:50 am

yes, it will most likely achieve certain results with less hassle (haven't tried it myself, just thought about the concepts behind the device).
Yet it's a tool and it will not turn a mess into a miracle just on it's own

I found this <a href=http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... &7>comment by Janni</a> very inspiring how he sorted his mix before mastering.

cheers, Tom

katano · Post by **katano** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:08 am

bx_digital is a must have in my ears... out of all the plugins i bought over the years it's the ONE that changed my sound most in a good way! and especially for that price!

cheers
roman

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:20 pm

Yeah, it's an awesome plugin. I was able to try it out because I entered the Fallen Angel contest (and didn't win

Shayne

siriusbliss · Post by **siriusbliss** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 10:14 am

the bx Digital plugin has made a huge positive impact on my mixdowns. Plus it's fun to carve out the mix and pull out different aspects of the overall recording.

Have fun,

Greg

gainman · Post by **gainman** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:38 am

I finally decided on buying the plugin!

I think it has great potential not only for mastering, but also for mixing, and even as an effect for stereo instruments. Of course, one needs time to explore all these possibilities...

The main characteristic of this plugin is its ability to separate any stereo source into its mono (M = L+R) and stereo (S = L-R) components, and I have found pretty soon that looking at a stereo track from that perspective can be very useful for understanding 1) its stereo character 2) how well or not it translates to mono.

As a start, yesterday I decided to take a bunch of commercial CDs and to play them through the plugin in order to get an understanding of what's going on with regards to the M and S components.

I set up the control room device so that I could choose what to send to the monitors from one of the following: 1) Regular stereo; 2) L Channel; 3) R Channel; 4) M Component; 5) S Component.
(Note that, except for the regular stereo option, all the other options are mono signals, and I sent them to both speakers.)

During these tests I avoided to do any of the modifications that the plugin provides. That is, I didn't apply any eq, or alter the balance between M and S, or anything.

I was just interested in investigating how the panning of the different instruments to L and R affects the M and S components, and in the end, how this affects the stereo perception and the quality of the conversion to mono.

I have found this exercise highly instructive, specially regarding mixing options, and I'm planning to post my findings here as soon as I find the time...