64 bit drivers?

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:24 pm

Will there ever be 64 bit drivers for the SFP platform?

Or do any of you think that this will be the "end of the road" for the SFP developement?

Is there anybody from Creamware out there?

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:19 am

stardust,

I have to disagree.

Sonar has a 64 bit version that will give you on the average 20% more power by running under XP64 and using 64 bit hardware. There a quite a few other companies that are making 64 bit compatible soundcards. Many of the major software manufacturers have 64 bit app currently under developement.

2 of Creamware's biggest competitors are working on 64 bit drivers, UA and TC.

I do like my Scope cards and my Pulsar II, but I also like the UAD-1 that I have installed in my homestudio machine. I also like to have the best to give the customer in my commercial studio, hence the 3*Scope system in our main room.

As far as the OSX, I think it's only a matter of time before Apple buys another company and starts making thier own 64 bit cards, the G5 currently supports 64 bit computing, the only holding the "average" user back is the lack of hardware.

I feel that Linux has not been accepted by a large enough user base to be considered a viable option for those that want or "require" 64 bit performance, nor a reason to hold back developement of a 64 bit driver.

Just my opinions, don't hate me for them, I'll give you plenty of other reasons to do that.

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7XL · Post by **7XL** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:13 am

I'm sure that sometime in the future that I'll say something that you'll "learn to hate me for"

That is just one of the "disclaimers" that I like to use when offering different opinions. There are some people that always seem to think that there are no other opinions than thier own.

I don't think that Cakewalk has "failed" in making DX a "standard", I believe that it has quite a bit to do with the fact that it is easier for people to code VST plugins, which in itself is a subset of DX. But that is not what this thread is about, we could discuss this for days, we'll leave that for those who care to discuss it.

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Post by **garyb** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 9:51 am

don't believe the hype.
it's all another way to take your dollar.
anyway, there will have to be a 64bit version eventually. there might be new hardware first, though. in the mean time, i can tell you, you won't miss out on anything. you already have better than what anyone had anytime in the past. let's see some music worthy of the gear.

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:47 pm

On 2005-10-29 10:51, garyb wrote:
let's see some music worthy of the gear.

Excuse me?

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:01 pm

On 2005-10-29 04:58, stardust wrote:
In particular scope platform is stable, complete and effective on commercial 32bit systems and needs no 64bit.

Actually, Scope is NOT stable. As I have just found out the hard way, it is not compatible with dual-core CPUs. It is in desperate need of updates to make it compatible with the latest generation of computers.

That said, I'm glad CreamWare is spending time working on the ASB boxes. When they have some more cash in the bank, maybe then they can resume Scope development.

Shayne

7XL · Post by **7XL** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:11 pm

Shayne,

What problems have you had with your dual core machine? I have a dual core Pentium machine with a Pulsar II installed and, in the 2 months that I've had it, I've experienced no problems.

I'd be interested in hearing what problems that you're encountering.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:24 pm

On 2005-10-29 13:47, 7XL wrote:
On 2005-10-29 10:51, garyb wrote:
let's see some music worthy of the gear.
Excuse me?

no offense intended..(but if you really want to you can take it)
i'm just suggesting that the tools are sufficient already. anything more is just that, more(i like more). sometimes it seems that having the latest, greatest is more important to some than having a useful system. of course, you have been making maximum use of what you have and are ready for the next level......

i'm just saying that if you can't make great music with the present set of tools, a newer computer won't help. it goes without saying that if cwa continues to make cards, they will have to work with the next generation computers. cwa has already stated that they intend to continue making cards. it is not certain what EXACTLY the new hardware in the new computers will be. a perfect example is apple ditching the greatest pc ever made(the g5

)with pci-x slots for pcie slots after only a few months. a small company like cwa will certainly wait to see what REALLY happens first. in the mean time, the current 64bit processors and apps really don't do any more work than the "older" 32bit p4s with 865 or 875 chipsets, so why worry?

just my opinion.

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:29 pm

Shayne I'm also curious about your dual-core issues. I've been running dual cpu's for 10 years and Creamware has been stable for the last 4-5 years on them. There's a few tools that don't run (Vorb) but overall its quite stable. The only possible difference that dual-core presents are 64bit (covered in this thread and as easy to disable as installing a 32bit OS) and the motherboard's chipset. The only really stable chipset for AMD cards is still Nforce3 afaik...