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A new synth?

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Hhhm, so do they talk about something different than the Waldorf Wave clone from John Bowen?

John Bowen isn't a DSP code programmer (no offense), so he's using the same atoms that we've had for years. Of course, hooking them up in a new synth design with different components may result in new ways of manipulating the waves, which is why he made the QuasiWave. But if CreamWare's working on a new Waldorf Wave clone, it's going to be new stuff entirely.

Very interesting...wonder if it will be ASB and Scope or just Scope, or just ASB?

Shayne

New algorithms for new DSP chips? Sounds good, especially if we'd only end up getting one voice on a Scope board.

Well, I have a big investment in Scope boards (Pulsar I, Luna II and Scope Professional) and I hope they release a version to run in the current boards. As the thing I like most in using CW stuff are the good quality of the vintage synth emulations it'll be a major disapointment if we could not run any new synths. Having said that the emulation I'd like most would be the Obie Xpander

On 2005-10-06 12:43, stardust wrote:
seconded. Obie 8 or Xa emulation would complete the vintage collection

You guys are forgetting about the Jupiter-8

A CS-80 would awesome too. But most of all, a Fender Rhodes emulation would be great.

Anyway it's nice to hear that CW is still developing new DSP synth algorithms and devices. With the changes that took place there (not so) recently I was afraid that they'll be only "repacking" old products for the time being.

a Rhodes and/or Grand ASB would require almost no knobs - killer cost-effective

may I remind that still no sampling engine does sympathetic resonance (no need to discuss it here), so it would be a unique (and outstanding) feature.
it has been implemented by GEM on Sharc DSPs in their Realpianos...

afaik that type of resonance is also important for realistic emulation of an e-piano's tines
regarding the Grand it would be sufficient (imho) if the box would generate the resonant part ONLY - that way it could spice up any keyboard (tons of Clavinovas, Korgs, Casios...)

cheers, Tom

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Great idea Tom, maybe then, there is some place left in the box for a real spring verb?

so...Ralf, can you confirm this? Another ASB synth?

I'm on the Waldorf user list, but I haven't seen any statement that would lead to the conclussion that there is something coming (but I might have missed it?).

Psssssssssssssssssssst,

this is top secret . . . .

On 2005-10-05 08:07, cream wrote:
A new synth?

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well, someone from CW talked.
Nice news btw.

No matter what they are making, this is another good vital sign from Creamware

How about an annoyingly small picture of some of the GUI, just to make us all speculate about what it could be?

It has the looks.

On 2005-10-07 04:46, Ralf wrote:
Psssssssssssssssssssst,

this is top secret . . . .

Hmm, wonder who leaked it?

Good to see you're working on something new!

Shayne

While I appreciate that an Matrix-12 or Xa or Xpander or what have you would be stellar, I do have to vote here for the Wave if it's a choice.

Traditional synthesis has been done to death. Wave is a cool concept because of how *different* it is. And it just hasn't been done well [ up until Zarg's modular... ], so there are still some folks like me would like to see the envelope pushed a little more with this architecture.

Of course, yes, I want an Xpander also. But the Wave would be my first choice.

Agreed about the Wave innovative synth architecture; I have a microwave 2 synth and never understood the BIG differences between it and the Wave (at least to justify the Wave price), so I hope that a realistic emulation of it would also answer this question for me

But we are not exactly voting here, just giving CW suggestions supposing that they'll keep developing vintage emulations for Scope. I believe that the really IMPORTANT point here is: we "early adopters" would like to have these synths running in the current Scope boards. It'll be a major
disappointment if the new devices would run only in ASB models or any new boards with improved Shark processors (I'm just guessing here).

And BTW... a realistic (or not) Matrix-12 or Xpander emulation doesn't exist also. Not even as a VST plugin

Sergio

Who knows if something really different will become an ASB like box... imagine a FleXor sounding box...if waves can be loaded, why not different oscillators, filters and shapers, provided the can use the same knob layout( FleXor stuff mostly does)? FleXor also has a Pitch2CV module....wouldn't be nice to load it right beyond the analog input?

Dreams....

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