Waldorf and Creamware

cream · Post by **cream** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:07 am

A new synth?

here

kybernaut_01 · Post by **kybernaut_01** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:44 am

Hhhm, so do they talk about something different than the Waldorf Wave clone from John Bowen?

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:46 am

John Bowen isn't a DSP code programmer (no offense), so he's using the same atoms that we've had for years. Of course, hooking them up in a new synth design with different components may result in new ways of manipulating the waves, which is why he made the QuasiWave. But if CreamWare's working on a new Waldorf Wave clone, it's going to be new stuff entirely.

Very interesting...wonder if it will be ASB and Scope or just Scope, or just ASB?

Shayne

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:58 pm

New algorithms for new DSP chips? Sounds good, especially if we'd only end up getting one voice on a Scope board.

sergiosimoes · Post by **sergiosimoes** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:51 pm

Well, I have a big investment in Scope boards (Pulsar I, Luna II and Scope Professional) and I hope they release a version to run in the current boards. As the thing I like most in using CW stuff are the good quality of the vintage synth emulations it'll be a major disapointment if we could not run any new synths. Having said that the emulation I'd like most would be the Obie Xpander

kybernaut_01 · Post by **kybernaut_01** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:14 pm

On 2005-10-06 12:43, stardust wrote:
seconded. Obie 8 or Xa emulation would complete the vintage collection

You guys are forgetting about the Jupiter-8

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:10 pm

A CS-80 would awesome too. But most of all, a Fender Rhodes emulation would be great.

sergiosimoes · Post by **sergiosimoes** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:40 pm

Anyway it's nice to hear that CW is still developing new DSP synth algorithms and devices. With the changes that took place there (not so) recently I was afraid that they'll be only "repacking" old products for the time being.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:16 pm

a Rhodes and/or Grand ASB would require almost no knobs - killer cost-effective

may I remind that still no sampling engine does sympathetic resonance (no need to discuss it here), so it would be a unique (and outstanding) feature.
it has been implemented by GEM on Sharc DSPs in their Realpianos...

afaik that type of resonance is also important for realistic emulation of an e-piano's tines
regarding the Grand it would be sufficient (imho) if the box would generate the resonant part ONLY - that way it could spice up any keyboard (tons of Clavinovas, Korgs, Casios...)

cheers, Tom

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ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:04 am

Great idea Tom, maybe then, there is some place left in the box for a real spring verb?

cream · Post by **cream** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:01 am

so...Ralf, can you confirm this? Another ASB synth?

replicant · Post by **replicant** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:44 am

I'm on the Waldorf user list, but I haven't seen any statement that would lead to the conclussion that there is something coming (but I might have missed it?).

Ralf · Post by **Ralf** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:46 am

Psssssssssssssssssssst,

this is top secret . . . .

On 2005-10-05 08:07, cream wrote:
A new synth?

here

cream · Post by **cream** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:16 am

well, someone from CW talked.

Nice news btw.

petal · Post by **petal** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:00 am

No matter what they are making, this is another good vital sign from Creamware

How about an annoyingly small picture of some of the GUI, just to make us all speculate about what it could be?

cream · Post by **cream** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:48 am

It has the looks.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:01 am

On 2005-10-07 04:46, Ralf wrote:
Psssssssssssssssssssst,

this is top secret . . . .

Hmm, wonder who leaked it?

Good to see you're working on something new!

Shayne

ScofieldKid · Post by **ScofieldKid** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:47 pm

While I appreciate that an Matrix-12 or Xa or Xpander or what have you would be stellar, I do have to vote here for the Wave if it's a choice.

Traditional synthesis has been done to death. Wave is a cool concept because of how *different* it is. And it just hasn't been done well [ up until Zarg's modular... ], so there are still some folks like me would like to see the envelope pushed a little more with this architecture.

Of course, yes, I want an Xpander also. But the Wave would be my first choice.

sergiosimoes · Post by **sergiosimoes** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:02 am

Agreed about the Wave innovative synth architecture; I have a microwave 2 synth and never understood the BIG differences between it and the Wave (at least to justify the Wave price), so I hope that a realistic emulation of it would also answer this question for me

But we are not exactly voting here, just giving CW suggestions supposing that they'll keep developing vintage emulations for Scope. I believe that the really IMPORTANT point here is: we "early adopters" would like to have these synths running in the current Scope boards. It'll be a major
disappointment if the new devices would run only in ASB models or any new boards with improved Shark processors (I'm just guessing here).

And BTW... a realistic (or not) Matrix-12 or Xpander emulation doesn't exist also. Not even as a VST plugin

Sergio

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:42 pm

Who knows if something really different will become an ASB like box... imagine a FleXor sounding box...if waves can be loaded, why not different oscillators, filters and shapers, provided the can use the same knob layout( FleXor stuff mostly does)? FleXor also has a Pitch2CV module....wouldn't be nice to load it right beyond the analog input?

Dreams....

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