Surround Encoding

AndrewTurnerAUS · Post by **AndrewTurnerAUS** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:16 pm

Hi All,

I am in the early stages of planning for a short film and the director has asked if 5.1 Surround Encoding is possible.

My Scope system includes the 16 channel surround mixer but from searching these forums it looks like there is no creamware encoder. At the moment I use Cubase SX to track my audio. I am interested to know what I should be looking at to create a 2 channel surround mix.

Many Thanks
Cheers

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Tue May 31, 2005 8:38 pm

A 5.1 surround mix is six channels.

Front right, front center, front left
rear right, rear left, and the LFE channel.

R

Liquid Len · Post by **Liquid Len** » Tue May 31, 2005 9:30 pm

There is a VST plugin called 'PanHandler' that will encode a 5.1 surround signal into two channels directly from Cubase.

http://www.sharewarerating.com/PanHandl ... d-9335.htm

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:07 am

You can mix as 5.1 in Scope getting the 6 mono files that are needed.

After that you have to use an encoder that is a program that you usually purchase separately, that doesn't run on scope but transforms the 6 files in a single ac3, DTS file or any format for wich it is dedicated.

I don't know wich encoder to suggest (I'm not in it), they are all expensive, generally, because of the rights that have to be payed to Dolby Labs or whatever third part.

Some daws or editors offer such plugins, but you always have to pay something more to have them. Check on your daw's site what's going on for it.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:18 am

a review on DTS:

http://www.laaudiofile.com/dtsencoder.html

arela · Post by **arela** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:01 am

hi
Adobe Audition lets you encode to 6-channel wave files.
Windows PCM wave (4 choices 16-32 bit) or
Windows Media Audio (128kbps - 768kbps)44,1 and 16 or 24 bit.
These files can be used in Adobe Premiere Pro

If you need Dolby or DTS, look at http://www.surcode.com/

nprime · Post by **nprime** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:20 am

On 2005-05-31 22:30, Liquid Len wrote:
There is a VST plugin called 'PanHandler' that will encode a 5.1 surround signal into two channels directly from Cubase.

http://www.sharewarerating.com/PanHandl ... d-9335.htm

No.

5.1 is six discrete channels, it cannot be encoded into stereo.

The old Dolby surround can be encoded that way, but it is not 5.1.

In your situation you would deliver the six mono wave files to the Post house and they will deal with putting them to the 5.1 soundtrack for the film. You do not have to encode anything. Have your film maker check with the place that will do the post work.

R

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:54 am

The DTS Encoder, Alfonso mentioned costs as much as two Scope Home+Lunar I/O box systems.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:28 am

That's why CWA never put one together for Scope.

alfonso · Post by **alfonso** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:53 pm

On 2005-06-01 09:20, nprime wrote:

In your situation you would deliver the six mono wave files to the Post house and they will deal with putting them to the 5.1 soundtrack for the film. You do not have to encode anything. Have your film maker check with the place that will do the post work.

R

I agree with that, you should make a surround mix and deliver the 6 files, this can be done easily if you have the needed outputs and monitors.

ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:26 pm

Steping myself into the surround world and found an AC3 encoder, looks free but haven´t tested it yet.

Oopss, forgot the adress

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/BeSweet.htm
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