Samplitude 8

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:56 am

Anyone using it? Is the MIDI component up to it yet?
I'm on SX 1.06 still, just waiting for Sam to get there...

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:45 am

it "looks" fine.. just not sure if VSTi support solid enough, and whether all the MIDI functions (the bells and whistles part) is robust enough. I'm talking about things like non destructive quantize, being able to control quantize strength, tiny things like that which matter a lot to me.

I think we had a couple of Sam7 users.. I wonder if they've upgraded. Any first impressions?

spiderman · Post by **spiderman** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:15 am

I don't use midi so I don't know .

Stige · Post by **Stige** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:19 pm

I'm in similar situation, wanting to get rid of cubase and looking for Sam 8. Been playing with the demo. There is one thing that worries me: only 16 outputs/VSTi. BFD needs 17 outputs. I have no access to samplitude user forums, so don't know if there is any improvement planned for this matter.
Not sure if it's bug or what, but can't get any sound in midi editor, I can hear my edits only by pressing play button in transport.
Anyway, I still prefer it over cubase, when we are speaking about the sound..

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siriusbliss · Post by **siriusbliss** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:55 pm

IMHO Samplitude 8.1 is the best thing going. MIDI is great, and VST's are solid like they were in 7.x.
If you guys are big on MIDI oriented production, then you may not be able to shake Cubasers or Cakewalkers as a central tool.
Up until now I've been using Voyetra DOP synced to Samplitude for MIDI, but am now ready to leave Voyetra behind.
I prefer having awesome audio quality than good MIDI functionality anyways!

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:50 pm

Looks pretty nice. And checkout the awesome price on JRRShop too:

http://www.jrrshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=221

I've been looking for a Logic replacement for a while, I think I found it =P.

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:33 pm

Does Samplitude 8 have screensets? I don't think I could ever move from Logic without them

edit: I couldn't live without linked editors either! If they implemented these I'd be in for sure.

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symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:20 am

Screensets and linked editors are nice features, but not worth sticking to a dead dinosaur =P

I guess the best way to know if you'd like it is to try the demo. Configurable shortcuts are good enough for me, and the MIDI editor doesn't annoying me too much, so I'm probably getting that Samp6 + Upgrade deal on monday, before it disappears forever

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:34 am

In my eyes it's a very sexy dinosaur which cheated death

To be honest, there's nothing which is forcing me to change *yet*... it will only be when the 1GB limit becomes impossible to work around that I'll have to.

Screensets and linked editors are *extremely* important when they are integrated into your way of working. I asked if Samp8 has them because even Cubase has them now (or at least a typical half-arsed attempt to implement them).

valis · Post by **valis** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:43 am

Logic will be a dinosaur when Logic (and/or the overall market) has an actual paradigm shift and not just a few generations of feature-wars (probably a few years left). Garyb is right, the essential core of Logic's functionality is already present in 5.5x. What has been added since is mostly added native logic plugins and polish on the overall app and standards interoperabilty. Oh, and not everyone cares enough about PDC (which is supposeldy coming for Logic OSX) to accept the 20-30% cpu hit that comes with it.

siriusbliss · Post by **siriusbliss** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:51 pm

Samp. has screensets. You can save zooms, regions, etc.

The elastic audio feature is great!

Go to http://www.samplitude.com/ and read up on the features. A lot of features are not listed on the site.

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:32 pm

Yeah yeah, I've been using Logic PC from 3.22 to 5.5.1 (since 1999, so nearly 6 years), and my rant concerned alot more than just bogus features and plug-ins (that I don't really use, anyway.) No need to get all defensive or anything. I was saying the *exact same thing* as you were about Logic 2 weeks ago, so I just frivolously posted random ramblings just in case someone else was in a similar situation than me, to indicate that it might be worth your time to look at it, you are still free to use whatever ASIO ENGINE OVERLOADED, PLAYBACK STOPED software OH WAIT LEMME HACK A BATCH FILE TO HACK PRIORITY you want

I have 900 megs worth of Logic Songs (that's just the LSOs, no audio files) so it's not something I would take lightly. I was refering more to things like sample-level zoom-ins, which always annoyed me to death in Logic. Samplitude's internal audio editor is also much nicer than Logic's, which is great for me since I don't have to switch between Logic and Soundforge/Wavelab etc. That's just a few things that did it for me, and I've just started looking at the demo, the more I dig the more I find stuff I like. It also goes with the overall track stucture, subtle GUI display stuff, having an object's waveform/notes displayed when I move it (much nicer than Logic's way of doing it, for precise sample-accurate positioning, with Logic I always had to fudge around a little in a trial-and-error way.)

Logic is still nice, but I'm not prepared to blow 750$US on discontinued software, however stable 5.5.1 is. The environement was way nice, but I can just clone anything I need with the SDK now, so really doesn't matter for me anymore

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darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:24 am

Wasn't getting defensive

I guess what I meant is that I don't see it as a dinosaur yet. There are a few little quirks like the priority thing but it's nothing major. I guess it's a bit different for me as I bought Logic..

I know it so well and I'm so comfortable with it that I might even just wait a while and get a Mac, because it will be easier to learn a new OS than to learn a new sequencer

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:18 am

5.5.1 should do the job for a while, not sure you really need a Mac. And anyway, SFP doesn't work in OSX yet, no need to rush to Apple just yet =P