Best reverb.

Liquid EDGE · Post by **Liquid EDGE** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:20 pm

Hi i was wondering wot peolple think is the best/most usefull reverb to get , i don't have much cash to just blindly buy them all and find out my self. So it would be much aprecatied to know wotwould be my best bet.

creamware one and a native one btw. so thats two really.

well come to think of it is it worth getting a uad-1 or the tc dsp card?.

cheers

Basic Pitch · Post by **Basic Pitch** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:47 pm

Well,

For as far as the standard in DSP stuff goes the feeling is basically UAD-1 for its amazing comps and TC card for the classic verb, I own both aswell as my CW card and love all three.

The TC Classic verb sound beautifull, very smooth for dance music and im sure many other styles, I have also heard great things about the native Voxengo Pristine space verb, if you want a CW device from what I have read the new timeworks hi-end plate verb sounds very interesting.

As far as the UAD goes the dreamverb is decent for certain applications and the proverb or what ever its called is nice for room simulation, but for me I always reach for a few instances of the classic verb as it just sounds so nice.. I also have Masterverb Pro, but honestly I have never done a whole lot with it for some reason.

Cheers!

medusa13 · Post by **medusa13** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:52 pm

The p100 by SonicTimeworks & Warp69 is the way to go.
I have never heared anything like that.

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... orum=10&11

Also, the a100 seems pretty good, but I haven't tested it yet.

Martin

Plato · Post by **Plato** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:58 pm

On 2004-08-03 15:52, medusa13 wrote:
The p100 by SonicTimeworks & Warp69 is the way to go.

http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... orum=10&11

Also, the a100 seems pretty good, but I haven't tested it yet.

Martin

My thoughts exactly

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:44 pm

"ambience" is an interesting tool...
i like the masterverb pro too!
it sounds warm and wide. (with big shape and some predelay)
the p100 is nice, indeed...

http://www.smartelectronix.com/~magnus/

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astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:50 pm

another vote for the p100

at first I wasn't shure if I need another 'plate' as I somehow like the SPX90's, too.
And the demo interuption (though understandable) made it rather difficult to judge from short impressions.

Then I did the following: I set the fx level of the verb to 50%, so the sound didn't fade completely in demo pauses and just kept playing along some nonsense on a keyboard with a very pronounced basic sound. After some time I got used to the missing fx moments - and a little later a certain 'image' of the sound rested in mind.

Then I switched to another verb (I have the PT2016, very good, but a completely different flavour of course) and 'tuned' to it's sound - then back to the p100, etc.

Suddenly I noticed that the p100 almost completely kept the original signal's character, but could 'blow' it up tremendously.
The sound became really BIG in a positive sense, while the other verb created something artificial - it performed good regarding the signal quality, yet the result was quite distant from the source.

I found this truely stunning - and this made me place my order just 10 minutes later

For the price the performance is outstanding - and I'm pretty shure I'll get the ambient version as well.
Those verbs need their resources, but one can actually hear the reason why

cheers, Tom

Liquid EDGE · Post by **Liquid EDGE** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:57 am

Cheers Guys

Right so from wot i read it would be damn good idea to get the uad-1 the tc whatever it's called and the p100 from sonictimeworks. phew. i need some cash...

i'll try out the ambiance as well.

also i suppose when i do get the other dsp cards it would be much adviced that i get a water cooling kit other wise i'll have a hoover in my room. (i'm asumming the pc will be rather hot with this many dsp's plus the fact i use an amd athlon, already need,obviusly the cpu fan, a case fan and an axaust to keep my comp stable.)

Thanks again

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AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 9:29 am

On 2004-08-04 07:57, Liquid EDGE wrote:

Right so from wot i read it would be damn good idea to get the uad-1 the tc whatever it's called and the p100 from sonictimeworks. phew. i need some cash...

if you got masterverbs, freeware native tools like ambience, SIR, prosinic rayverb and the warp69-staff, is there really a need for more (other) dsp-cards?

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Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:09 am

Rather than spend money on a card just for its 'verbs, why not spend the amount on a decent hardware reverb unit (one of the highr-end ones) and integrate that into your SCOPE set-up. It will sound better than TC or SCOPE reverb.

Mr A

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AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:24 am

..but will you hear the difference in a mix?

I dont´t think that a hardware device sounds better...
the lexicon 960l doas, for shure

(if you can afford it)

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Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:41 am

There are cheaper good reverbs (even Lexicon s/h). Me, i'm happy with MasterVerb Pro and i may check out that plate verb. Never liked native reverbs.

i was just pointing it out as an alternative to buying a TC Powercore just for the reverb (seemed a bit pointless)

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AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:44 am

have you ever tried ambience?

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Post by **garyb** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:17 pm

that's a nice one. some settings can use insane amounts of resources, but most settings are useful and they sound great....

Basic Pitch · Post by **Basic Pitch** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:54 pm

You wouldnt just buy a Powercore for the verbs there is much more to that card EG:

- Sony Dynamics
- Sony Inflator
- Sony Transient Modulator
- Oxford EQ
- TC Assimilator
- Virus Powercore
- TC/Novation V Station
- TC EQsat (surgical tool)
- TC Chorus-Delay
- New Restoration Suit for Powercore
- Dsound VL2
- Filtroid
- Intonator HS
- TC Thrity
- Voice Modeler

Many of which are additinal purchases but these are all spectacular tools if ya have the extra cash

But the Powercore is a great platform aside from just its super smooth included verb..

My 2 cents

decimator · Post by **decimator** » Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:16 pm

P-100 !
I don't know if it's " the best " but I just can't barely imagine what a better verb would sound like ... like reaching 9 or 9.5 out of 10 !

Liquid EDGE · Post by **Liquid EDGE** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:04 pm

hi

Like basic say's if i were to get the uad-1 and tc powercore it wouldn't be just for the reverbs as they offer much more, it has been something i thought about for a while but never really thought it would be worth it, but with the backing of basic pitch i think they are most deserved purchases.

any hows thanks for your opinions on reverbs and i think my next purchase is the p100 along with a million and one other things to lust after.

Cheers

Keep Rollin'

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Liquid EDGE · Post by **Liquid EDGE** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:42 pm

hi guy's i'm just about to buy the p100 reverb. and have noticed that the 4080L pro reverb is more than double the price, is this not better, if you go by things as, you pay for wot you get.

by wot you have already said i believe that the p100 is damn good, quote "i can't imagine wot would sound better".

just wondering and double checking...

Cheers..

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:51 pm

Actually, the P100 is better than the 4080L! I don't know why the 4080L is more expensive.

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:12 pm

On 2004-08-03 17:50, astroman wrote:
Suddenly I noticed that the p100 almost completely kept the original signal's character, but could 'blow' it up tremendously.

The sound became really BIG in a positive sense, while the other verb created something artificial - it performed good regarding the signal quality, yet the result was quite distant from the source.
cheers, Tom

I agree with Tom. The P100 sounds great and doesn't wash out the source, thereby making it larger.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:09 pm

hey, I just did a mix for a friend on his setup, and used the 4080L verb.. and man, was I impressed! I'm usually pretty content with using the CW standard masterverb, but the 4080L is a different beast. I'm seriously thinking of getting it. It sounds kind of unnatural, but has great character i think.

Now, the problem is, how does Timework's proverb, P-100, A-100, I-100 compare against the 4080L? Is the Proverb supposed to be the CW version of 4080L? Or just something different?

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