Newbie Question About Recording Without Latency

matts · Post by **matts** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:08 pm

I am about to get a SCOPE Project card and I have a question for which I haven't been able to find an answer.

Suppose I have an 8 ch. AD/DA with an ADAT lightpipe and wordclock output that is connected to 8 microphones. I want to have a 24 track project where I can record these 8 channels and playback the other 16 channels of audio and monitor the mix of all 24 channels without latency.

How would I do this? Can you do this with a recording program/sequencer such as SONAR or do you need to use a plug in like VDAT?

I've searched for an answer to this, but I haven't found a direct answer. As I understand it, the SCOPE cards and plugins can be used to have a latency-free hard disk recorder with flexible effects, but without actually owning one I can't confirm this.

Thanks
-Matt

Post by **garyb** » Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:56 pm

monitor off a scope mixer.
it's the exact same process as with hardware.

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 1:35 am

In the Scope software you can mix the channels together and route it back to the card's outputs latency-free. The incoming signals from the ADAT box can also be fed to the ASIO outputs (inputs in Sonar) at the same time. Pannning, volume, and effects can also be placed on the monitoring channels, latency-free, without affecting the recording itself. That's the beauty of Scope that you can't do on just about anything else!!

You MUST use ASIO, not WDM, by the way.

Shayne

Post by **garyb** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 12:50 pm

matts,i'm in long beach and i am often in o.c. . email me(or use the private message) if you want and i can arrange to show you what's up....

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 2:38 pm

welcome matts,

that's certainly an offer you can't refuse...

but just for completeness:
of course the playback tracks from the sequencer contain the program's ASIO latency (depending on your machine).
Since that's usually very low on current hardware the 'no latency' of SFP's synth, fx and mixer processing changes to a 'practically uneffective latency' for the complete system.

cheers, Tom

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Sat Apr 24, 2004 8:10 pm

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How would I do this? Can you do this with a recording program/sequencer such as SONAR or do you need to use a plug in like VDAT?
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Yes, you can use a program like Sonar to act as a tape deck. Playback and record with Sonar but monitor off the mixers in Scope. This is the way I work. You can even route out to hardware effects to use on the 16 trks that you are playing back whilst recording another 8 if you like.

Scope works pretty much like having a hardware mixer, Hardware effects, patchbays and a sh*t load of cables, equiv hardware latency, but it all sits inside your computer. The no latency routing anything to anything inside Scope is one of it's biggest features IMO.

matts · Post by **matts** » Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:27 pm

Thanks for the helpful replies! This board looks like it is an excellent resource. I'm looking forward to trying out the scope platform.

-Matt