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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:09 am
by doodyrh
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:11 am
by valis
Hrm, mebbe you should check the NEW site:
(they switched over a few weeks ago)
http://www.cwaudio.de/

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:19 am
by King of Snake
I just hope they change the
Version 4.0 download and registration is still under construction and must be delayed by a few days. We're sorry. Happy Holidays anyway!
to something else soon
anyway, don't they have a link on their old site to the new one?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:21 am
by hubird
@ Doodyrh:
haha, very funny!
You've a lot to read here, Doodyrh
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:58 am
by doodyrh
Looks like the

's are on me.
True I've been away for four weeks and started trying to catch up but couldn't figure out what, if anything, had actually happened. Only what definitely didn't happen....
So before I crawl back under my stone, don't they control the old site any more?
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:18 pm
by valis
They do but there was a staffing and company change, so I suspect their control over the old site was such that they decided to launch a new site along with the rebranding. Meaning they probably retain control but not necessarily enough knowledge of how its put together to effect a fast site rebuild. This can take many months and perhaps longer for companies with as much product as Creamware.
To prove the point, navigate to the 'old' English Product pages here:
http://www.creamware.de/en/Products/default.asp
Now check the 'new' English version here:
http://www.cwaudio.de/index.php?submenu ... ts&lang=en
All aesthetics aside, I choose an 'inner' page so that you could see something here. Notice that the 'old' site uses .asp as its extension (Microsoft 'Active Server Pages') and the new site uses Php. This suggests to me that part of the reason its taking so long to port everything over is because they have moved from a Microsoft backend solution over to Linux. This also suggests that probably there aren't a large number of ASP programmers on staff and hence porting the Key database section is taking longer than expected.
Could be wrong about some of the conjecture but the asp/php part is obvious...
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:19 pm
by hubird
thanks Valis, it makes clear Linux actually made a step into the house

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:21 pm
by hubird
dp
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:20 am
by spoimala
Yes, that is true. I'm not sure whether the new one is exatcly Linux, but any Unix -system definately.
This also suggests that probably there aren't a large number of ASP programmers on staff and hence porting the Key database section is taking longer than expected.
Quite clever speculation I must say.

But I'm a little suspicios that CW would do the web site programming themselves. It's pretty rare, that such a company would hold the web. Programming DSP is pretty different from programming web sites
Could be wrong about some of the conjecture but the asp/php part is obvious...
Did you know, that Microsoft IIS can also serve PHP pages..?

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:30 am
by doodyrh
I still think it would be very sensible and very easy to replace the "we're out of insolvency" message to "please visit our new website".
I can only imagine it's a legal/administrative issue rather than a technical one.
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:45 am
by doodyrh
Anyway, I see a lot's happened. Interesting to see the rebranding of SFP and Pulsar (and this forum) to Scope. I hope dropping the name Pulsar is the right decision. It must have been the most recognised Creamware product name.
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:34 pm
by powerpulsarian
On 2004-04-20 04:30, doodyrh wrote:
I still think it would be very sensible and very easy to replace the "we're out of insolvency" message to "please visit our new website".
I can only imagine it's a legal/administrative issue rather than a technical one.
Yes - it is just a text change - there is no big programming involved in making a text change.
Overall, there text (even on the new web site) needs a lot of work.
Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:54 pm
by doodyrh
OK I get it.
If you go to
http://www.creamware.de
or
http://www.creamware.com
it gets redirected
Using the link
http://www.creamware.de/en/Home/default.asp
stored in my favorites folder it goes to the old site.
I can stop rolling my eyes now.
It was starting to hurt.
