Witch MOBO ? Wich order?

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 5:58 am

Hello planetZ !!

Im going to take that extra small step up and buy an additional Luna (or a Pulsar SRB if my wallet grows buy it self).
And i will have to get another MOBO for my DAW.
Beacuse i can only fit 2 boards on my existing MOBO right now, because someone decided to put the IDE "ports" in a very dumb place

In fact.. i don't believe iv'e ever seen a smaller MOBO than this one!
It's soo...small!

I would like to know what MOBO i should look for, and also in wich order should i fit the cards. I already have a Pulsar2 and one Powersampler. I mean the Luna and Powersampler only have one S/TDM connection each while P2 have two.

Thanx for listening

Jngaelin

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interloper · Post by **interloper** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:45 am

I would say go with an ASUS mobo that has the 800 Mhz Front Side Bus. Of course, you'll need matching memory to boot.

The P4C800-E Deluxe looks nice, supports up to 3.2 Ghz P4's, up to 4 GB of DDR400 Ram, Serial ATA, 8X AGP, and has 5 PCI slots.

Can't go wrong with ASUS.

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:31 am

Thanx man

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 11:50 am

No problem. Oh, and I would put the largest card into slot 1.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:42 pm

my choice is intel,but i don't overclock.

jabney · Post by **jabney** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:09 pm

I'm with garyb on this one. Intel mobos are very stable. Taking his statement about overclocking one step further, I'd say anyone who overclocks a computer with a Creamware card inside should be forced to listen to 10 hours a day of 64k mp3s of William Shatner's singing through a pair of original Yamaha NS10s powered by a pair of $40 (when new) transistorized combo guitar amps from the 1980s

In other words, please don't overclock a Creamware card.

Post by **hubird** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:17 pm

why overclocking?
you'll just be much to early at all your engagements!?

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:27 pm

ehm....

I never said i wanted to overklock anything.
Iv'e never done it before and i would sertainly not do it with even ONE of my CW cards on the MOBO.

I just want a new MOBO.

Am i missing something here ?
I might be a bit of or just very tired as usuall...but i don't understand why Interlopers answer triggered such a "violent" outburst of agitated responses.

Someone shed some intelligence on my paper-brain

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oh my!....i can feel my brain trying to escape.....

It is screaming for mercy.
I can hear it....
Jngaelins brain screaming:YAAAAAAARGHHH !!!!

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This cannot be right......ones brain are not suposed to talk to itself in 2:nd person...and sertainly not this aggressive.

Something has to be done..................zZZZZzzZZZzzzZZZZZz
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Post by **hubird** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:15 pm

sorry, was just making fun, saterday night you know...
sleep well!

Post by **garyb** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:40 pm

all i said was that i liked intel mobos.(865 or 875 chipsets work well...)

interloper · Post by **interloper** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 1:22 am

I don't think anyone's agitated, I'm against overclocking anyway, so I'd tend to agree.

Overclocking can put additional stress on all ICs and PCI cards, depending on how it's done. Not really necessary with a Pentium 4, nor recommended with $3k worth of soundcards in my box.

Overclocking is more for gamers and performance freaks...

What's wrong with William Shatner?

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:09 am

Intel I believe is the go for stability. I've just ordered an intel D875PBZ. There are others that are just as good i.e. 865/845...ASUS are good also. Avoid dual processors and LAN. Most importantly don't forget to reformat your HDD for the OS, and install things in the correct order. ( See tips and tricks)
P.S. Overclocking is for gamers and could potentially fry your CW cards.

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Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 10:53 am

On 2004-02-15 01:22, interloper wrote:
What's wrong with William Shatner?

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:03 am

Overclocking seems to have taken over the original post

and i really don't know how.....

Anyway. Im using a INTEL chipset right now a 845 chip and so far the only serious problem i have encountered is "USB-CW" incompabillity.
When enabling USB my DAW will shut down, brutally, without warning.

Im shure there are more CW-users out there with the same issue !

Keep posting DAW configurations please.

*Ricardo.
Regarding the intel D875PBZ MOBO.
Have you noticed any "USB-CW" unstabillity, as described above?

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interloper · Post by **interloper** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:49 am

On 2004-02-15 11:03, Jngaelin wrote:
When enabling USB my DAW will shut down, brutally, without warning.

You might have an IRQ conflict when you enable USB...?

Post by **garyb** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:27 pm

i use a usb midi device(akai mp16),2 dongles(logic and cubase)and 2 usb hds,all o.k. with intel d850mvl(with lan)......

Jngaelin · Post by **Jngaelin** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 5:02 pm

On 2004-02-15 11:49, interloper wrote:
You might have an IRQ conflict when you enable USB...?

Yes of course, but i cannot seem to find any indications of it

For now USB remains disabled.

So many people have tried to aid me in my efforts to solve this "stinking" problem...but it just wont work !

Im out of my leage here guys

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On 2004-02-15 16:27, garyb wrote:
i use a usb midi device(akai mp16),2 dongles(logic and cubase)and 2 usb hds,all o.k. with intel d850mvl(with lan)......

Which sequencer do you run ?

Could you provide me with a link to a homepage of the MOBO you use please

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Post by **garyb** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 6:03 pm

logic,cubase sx and sonar3 all latest editions for pc.

links for mobos that work for me,personally:

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/rl ... s_d865perl&

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/mv ... s_d850emv2&

also i have an obsolete asus mobo w/an intel 820 chipset,lan,all the same usb,dual p3 slot1 1ghz working fine.(model p3c-d) http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content ... 3cd&page=1

Counterparts · Post by **Counterparts** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 4:52 am

Intel, ASUS & Gigabit all make good MOBOs.

I just got myself an ASUS P4PE-X with a '533' FSB 2.6 GHz P4. I considered the 800 FSB version but a) I believe that you have to be quite specific about the PC3200 RAM that's installed (quite pricey too), b) the CPU's more expensive and c) you don't really gain that much memory speed...the '533' uses PC2700 RAM which runs at 333MHz and the '800' uses PC3200 which runs at 400MHz FSB.

I don't overclock, myself but that's just my personal preference.

Royston

p.s. anybody else using a MOBO with the 'new' ATX square 4-pin 12 volt socket? My 'ATX' (sic) PSU doesn't have this plug, but the computer seems to be working fine (11.77 volts reported by the CPU instead of 12).

EDIT: I've just noticed that Scan have sent me a P4PE-X/TE, rather than the P4PE-X. According to their website, the P4PE-X should have a BROADCOM ethernet controller, which is what I wanted as the /TE version has a RealTek (SIGH!!) ethernet controller. WHY use a RealTek ethernet chip, WHY? Better performance can be acheived using a potato chip

For that reason alone, I would recommend steering clear, if possible of the /TE variant.

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AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:41 am

On 2004-02-15 01:22, interloper wrote:
Overclocking is more for gamers and performance freaks...

...And for realtime vst-freaks like me

best, andre

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