setup with 4 cards

fidox · Post by **fidox** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:36 am

Hi all!

anyone here have 4 cards connected ? i have one free pci slot and irq, so if i can make this 4 plugg STDM cable is there any hope for me ?

i think there's no hope for me, since i discovered Creamware, now i can't stop !?!:))

matej

virtualstudio · Post by **virtualstudio** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:46 am

3 boards max..in one system
build an other system, connect through adat and midi, works perfect!!

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Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:03 pm

Read the section in the manual.

Post by **garyb** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:50 pm

there are rumours...........

snoopy4ever · Post by **snoopy4ever** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:18 pm

On 2004-02-12 12:50, garyb wrote:
there are rumours...........

Rumours???.. here??

..

seriously.. rumours about ?...

jabney · Post by **jabney** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:37 pm

Re: rumours,

Doesn't the manual actually say something along the lines of three cards maximum through a single STDM cable?

Still, I think two computers connected via ADAT makes more sense. That's what I hope to try next. (As soon as I figure out a good way for quieting the fans in the box that will live in my listening room

).

[ This Message was edited by: jabney on 2004-02-12 14:38 ]

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:17 am

Grrrmpf.
believed in rumors....
4 boards in my computer: Luna, P1, P1, Psrb...
=> Errormessage about s-tdm connection.

used a custom s-tdm - just plugged another connector in a 3connector-version. The new one seems to be finde - everything's o.k. with three boards, no matter which connectors I use, but no 4 boards. schluchz!

Is it really impossible? There has to be a trick or something ...!?

Martin

valis · Post by **valis** » Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:24 am

I know that most dsp card makers advertise a limit of 3 boards (my RME hammerfall has a maximum limit of 3 pci devices as well). I think its a limitation of the i/o architecture (PCI/IRQ/etc) and not something that can be fixed by the card makers, only the people who drive computer technology.

An interesting question though is whether PCI-Express and the forthcoming new BIOS replacements have the same limitations.

[ This Message was edited by: valis on 2004-02-21 09:25 ]

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:49 am

Hey valis,

I read somewhere on the Creamware site that 3 cards is a maximum, but they say to contact them if you want to run more than 3. So I don't think it's a PCI limitation, rather a software (drivers?) limitation. Probably cos more cards are a torture for your motherboard. Also an STDM cable (as I know it) can only connect 3 cards.

As for most users, getting larger cards would solve the issue, IMO it doesnt make any sense to cascade 4 Pulsar2's. It's time to move to Scope boards then... As to my experience, larger boards also make a much more stable setup than different smaller ones.

My 2 cents,

at0m.

Post by **garyb** » Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:52 pm

good point.sell 2 get one scope(or powerpulsar).

MCCY · Post by **MCCY** » Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:15 am

Hi!
For selling all my boards (19DSP)3 Pulsar I, Luna, PI srb I wouldn't get enough money to buy a scope (15DSP) with less IO capabilities.

For sure, the 2 computer-solution fits best for me. I have to get that second one quiet somehow (it's kind of a high-end Instrument player and data server right now - I think i'll take out a big, loud HD and use it only for minimax & effects now).

thanks for your contributions!

Martin

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:41 am

I had Scope SRB, Pulsar1 and Powersampler in one PC. I found, that I ran out of STDM connections too often. After I took out the Powersampler, I can load more devices.

edmann · Post by **edmann** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:17 am

Isn't there a PCI bandwidth issue also? As in: the computer can run out of PCI bandwidth before all the Pulsar DSP's are used (this presuming that one has....15 or more (?) SHARCs?

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:05 pm

I have had PCI trouble with a 4dsp card. You need a motherboard with good PCI performance (and bandwith does not seem to be as much the actual problem, as timing does).