Backups......... Haleluja!

petal · Post by **petal** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:23 pm

This summer I upgraded my pc and accidently deleted a few patches I had made for the Vectron - including some of which I afterwards through mp3-recordings had grown quite funned off.
I tried to recreate them, but couldn't exactly recreate the one.
Then the other day I was looking for somthing else and looked through my cd's - where I found a backup of all my patches

Just a little reminder
Thomas

Shayne White · Post by **Shayne White** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:23 am

I have a dedicated external FireWire drive onto which I back up EVERYTHING. If any files ever get corrupted I still have copies handy.

Shayne

Post by **Neil B** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:56 am

Having been in computers for many many years I always backup at the end of every session and do some big weekly backups too.
An hour or so a week backing up is worth a lot in terms of peace of mind.
I'm glad you're "safe" Petal

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:42 am

A big "me too" !
In my job as a supporter I see about 5-10 crashed HD's every month (from about 800 customers), so I'm quite paranoid about backing up... Never lost anything yet

Kim.

P.S. 9 out of 10 crashed drives are firewire...

Marc de Ruiter · Post by **Marc de Ruiter** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:02 am

If you load them up to the preset and patches section you quite sure you have a backup....

siberiansun · Post by **siberiansun** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:11 pm

i got my back covered in another way:
i only produce crap!
that way i'm certain i don't lose anything valuable in any HDD crash

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:39 am

dehuszar · Post by **dehuszar** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 1:15 am

After losing a couple of IBM Deathstar HDs, I invested in a little program called Easy Recovery Professional. Version 6 is amazing. Accidentally format a drive? No Problem, Reader stick to the disk? If you can get it unstuck for about 1/2 and hour (re: the old HD in a freezer bag in the freezer trick), you can get your data off. It's made by OnTrack and it's saved my life.

No I don't work for them.

Sam

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 11:33 pm

Drives are getting bigger and bigger all the time... so your backups... this is a bit frustrationg too. The bigger your computer, the more you need to backup and becomes expensive.

I know it's crazy, but the only way I have to backup securely is my CDWR drive. So what I do eventually, when I do some serious job, is to backup my files to CDRW CDs. This is slow, but it is also a solution everybody here has, and it is perhaps the cheaper one.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:54 am

How much do they use their computers? I'm amazed the rate is so high. What type of hard drives do they use?

On 2003-11-25 02:42, kimgr wrote:
A big "me too" !
In my job as a supporter I see about 5-10 crashed HD's every month (from about 800 customers), so I'm quite paranoid about backing up... Never lost anything yet

Kim.

P.S. 9 out of 10 crashed drives are firewire...

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 2:53 pm

that's a 1% failure rate, imho pretty good considering current prices.
Kim is probably talking about quality stuff as I've talked to shop owners who received 10-20% defect drives from certain 'consumer' series.
Generally they don't care as the cases are covered by warranty.
This may be acceptable for private use, but in professional environements the loss of data and time is far more important and that's not covered by anything - but precaution.

cheers, Tom

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:28 am

On 2003-11-30 09:54, braincell wrote:
How much do they use their computers? I'm amazed the rate is so high. What type of hard drives do they use?

Most of our customers are commercial facilities and pro composers/musicians, so their drives do spin most of the time

Physically speaking it seems that SCSI drives have a life expectency of 5 years, while good ATA drives lasts about 2-3 years under heavy use.
Inside those limits, the failure rate is about 1/500 on SCSI, and 1/100 on ATA.

When talking about "crashed" , I wasn't just refering to physical defective drives, but also "soft" crashed drives. (Corrupted/Erased drivers, indexes & files.)
That seems to happend all the time with firewire drives, especially because most people are under the impression that they can just plug the cables in'n'out at any giving time, even with drives powered up...
The other big reason for soft-crashed drives are when people don't bother to run a disk maintainance utility after a crash. That way you quicly accumulate errors, and it's only downhill from there...

Kim.