Sonar Users

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:46 am

I am experimenting with a trial version of Sonar 2 in order to move over to Sonar 3.I have recorded midi tracks, and in recording an audio track the sound from the midi track is rerecorded onto the audio tracks together with the audio. Like a bounced file. Any advice?

Billy goat gruff · Post by **Billy goat gruff** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 5:06 am

Take a good look at your project. You may find that you've connected your Asio/Wave/Seq source up in such a way that you're re-recording tracks onto your fresh tracks. You'll have to separate playback tracks and recording, but still be able to hear.

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:38 am

I will have a try again. Almost got frustrated. I will let you know what happen. This is the most interesting part of my recording career. Migrating from Logic is very difficult but I must overcome it. I am getting a crossgrde to Sonar 3 from Logic Audio Gold 4.81

Do you have to connect the Source and Dest the same way as in Logic?

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Billy goat gruff · Post by **Billy goat gruff** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:30 pm

If you've been successfully running Logic, then this probably isn't the issue. Might need someone else to pipe up.

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:32 am

I still cannot solve the problem. I am trying. I had no problem with Logic. I am going to try Cubase also.

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:22 pm

I've tried Sonar lately, and had a problem:

When i put a send in an audio track of sonar and activate it, the audio stop.

I have to do a audio engine reset an start all the times.

It is clearly impossible they make it work that way, i'm probably missing something here, somebody have an idea?

I used ASIO mode in 24bits. 16 bits didn't change the behavior.

I like the interface, but it is not possible to work when each click make the audio stop!

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:23 pm

I am having hell with a trial version 2.2. Maybe I am too eager to migrate from Logic. I have only one choice if I don't get it to work. Get a Mac and keep using Logic

Where are those Sonar users?????????. My already recorded midi track is being re-recorded onto those audio tracks.

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valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:22 pm

Did your copy of logic PC stop working?

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:14 am

Valis Let's get to the point to make you understand my position. Must I stay on Windows 98 to use logic Audio Gold 4.81 with all those crashes and torture I have been through for three years? I have to be sleeping in bed with Emagic to do so. I need to move on to Windows XP. This version only works on Win 98, 95 and ME. I have made several request to Emagic to get the installation disk for Windows 2000 but strange??? The only time you get a quick reply is when you talk Mac. No one, no company would force me to use what they think or propose I should use. I would rather stop recording music. I don't want to move away from SFP. I believe it's the BEST routing software available. I am looking at other solutions. If you observe what is happening. Software companies are now aligning themselves with other hardware companies to save their a** from bankrupsy. They would gladly sacrifice their customers. Cakewalk has instituted ASIO support mainly for Digidesign cards but Cakewalk is different to Emagic and others. Maybe they believe in GOD Almighty.

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Billy goat gruff · Post by **Billy goat gruff** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:39 am

Just a thought...how 'bout you head over to a Sonar forum also and see if you can get the answers there. Maybe this issue is Sonar specific, not SFP related.

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:00 am

It is definately not SFP. I never said so. I visited the Sonar forum on more than one occasion. I did not see anything pertaining to my problem. You have to be a registeed user to post questions. Maybe it's a trial version BUG. Anyhow I am going to upgrade to Sonar 3. I would deal with that problem after. I would then get full support from the forum. Thanks. If you or anyone else come up with a solution or suggestion please let me know.

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:05 am

Strange when I select Microsoft Wavetable Synh I don't get midi re-recording on audio tracks.

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:31 pm

I got it to work. The problem was the way my signal was routed through the mixer. Silly me.

valis · Post by **valis** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:50 pm

On 2003-10-15 04:14, abre wrote:
Valis Let's get to the point to make you understand my position.

My apologies, I meant no offense. I'm often astounded how often people feel they need to upgrade & install new things these days however. Technolust can be akin to the gear lust that most of us have probably felt at one time or another. Just for the record I use Logic Audio Plat. 5.51 on PC and while I recognize that I will likely eventually want more power, I had intended to suggest that the gap between 4.81 and 5.51 was likely large enough that it might appeal to you.

Having bought & returned both Sonar (1.x, tried it LONG before sfp had made it to 3.x due to its support of 2 cpu's) and Cubase Sx (1.x) I finally just decided to stick with what I know until I've absolutely outgrown it.

Good luck with Sonar, I hope you make great music!

Tony B · Post by **Tony B** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:43 am

I would like to stay with logic. Something new has developed. Emagic has promised to send me the installer disk to install my version on Windows 2000. I intend to try it for a while and see how it works. I myself really meant no malice. I was also trying to get he latest version of Logic Audio Platinum for PC from them. I did not get it.
I have been thinking a lot about moving to another sequencer. It is not an easy decision when you are using a programme for four years. I never used any other sequencer but Logic.

valis · Post by **valis** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:39 am

I understand myself.

Like many other logic PC users here, I feel like I spent quite a bit of money and put up with a lot of problems over the years with the promise of stability and great things. Well I've finally gotten that stability (nt OS & fairly stable logic) but I have to switch to a platform that I gave up on 3 years ago or give up that investment in Logic? (mac)

However, while 5.51 doesn't contain some of the niceties that companies are using to drive their upgrades into continuing income (profitability for the quarter) like 'freeze' 'full latency compensation' etc, I suspect it'll continue to be quite usable for at least the next 2 years.

In fact, at some point PCI will be gone entirely from 'current platforms' but I suspect that--much like synths before midi was mature & included in the architecture--my Pulsars will be sitting in a PC for quite a few years to come, even if its not the main workstation in the studio.

Post by **garyb** » Thu Oct 16, 2003 12:12 pm

yes,5.51 works pretty well on xp as well.looking at an old g4 and cpu upgrade(dual 1g upgrade available puts performance somewhere near the current standard).but i'm sure i'll just wait a munite more,things may change again....