Prospective Luna 2 buyer [vdat/tridat]

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:36 am

Hi,
I've been eyeing the Luna 2 for quite some time and already have had quite some interesting and usefull feedback from Borg , a regular here on the board.

My setup :

AMD ATHLON 1 GHZ ; 256 MB Ram ; ST Audio DSP24 MK2 [ that would become +/- obsolete if I go for the Luna 2 ]

By choice I'm a sampling cut 'n paste artist only, so i'm not so interested in the synth's and even the samplers. My tool of choice Is Ableton Live for that .

What i would like to use the Luna 2 for is for project mixdown.

So as far as i have been able to determine I could use the Luna 2 iN Asiomode to feed 16 ASIO channels from Ableton Live into the Luna mixer environment, where I could use its DSP power & efx to mix it down or in a live setting to manipulate my master out.

My main question on the mixdown : is there a Luna/Pulsar specific application/plugin that I can use to record and render the mixdown output .

From what I've read here, most people feed the "dsp'd audio output" back into their sequencer of choice.

I've seen mentionning of the TripleDAT application butthat doesn't run under w2000/XP and I don't understand DAT behaviour very well ... does this render to wav individually so that I could adjust mixer/efx levels after recording ?

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Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 8:40 am

Some of the Samplers can record - they take some DSP though (you will feel it with only 3). Also there is VDAT, but that may be too expensive for your budget.

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:47 am

The device of choice would be the STS3000 sampler as it can actually write a stereo file, while VDAT only does mono. The STS3000 is a bit DSP heavy though, so a simple stereo recorder would be a really nice addition.

dehuszar · Post by **dehuszar** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 10:50 am

I have one that I'll be selling with some plugs and the 24/96 IO box. If you're interested email me privately and I'll give you the lowdown.

Sam

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 3:20 pm

I think the sampler won't be an option as I want to capture the individual trax as wav in order to do a full mixdown afterwards.

I had hoped I could do this in 'a native Cramware environment' that would alow me tto capture the audio after the mixer + efx.

borg · Post by **borg** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 5:45 pm

hey mbazzy,

welcome at Z!

i just did the little test you asked for.
5 stereo clips in ableton live, each its own bus/asio pair. then in an sfp mixer, five channels, each one plug (delay, overdrive, flanger, and the dsp hungrier masterverb and hexachorus). each via direct outs of the mixer back to ableton live via asio. the resulting tracks in ableton routed to the master (asio 1/2). so that's 12 ins and 10 outs.
no problems here. although... i have to admit... dsp power! you'll have to do some serious dsp economics (maybe the multifx slots instead of the mixer is a good help here). connecting the asio from ableton into sfp is a real dsp crusher. the above construction will probably squeeze the last drops of dsp power out of a luna.

be real nice to your lady and ask for a bigger CWristmas present...

voidar · Post by **voidar** » Sat Sep 13, 2003 7:03 pm

You can record individual tracks from Live (or any other sequencer) to VDAT, but I do not see the point with this when you could just as easily stream tracks directly from Live.

The sequencer would be used for mixdown of the complete song. - Correction - The SAMPLER would, not the sequencer.

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Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Sun Sep 14, 2003 2:34 pm

Andy/Borg,

Many thanx for your efforts. Appreciate this A LOT , ... I'll give all this and the reading I'm doing some more thought b4 asking more feedback.