Yet Even More Questions Regarding Winter Deals

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wow, these 'fellow engineer' friends of yours Das are a bit toxic, i think you are dealing with 'techies', not sound engineers, so their experience is limited, ...i have many friends in planetz who know much about computers , but don't have real experience with sound engineering or haven't developed the ears to mix right.. So don't be bothered to argue, they won't have your plugs, ..so only some of us will have your sounds. Take the high road, ...like all immature people, ...they come around some day...maybe not tomorrow
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Atomic Marshmallow wrote:By the way Shroomz, does Wolf's Spectrum" perform the same kind of function as the items I was looking at before?
Yes & no. It's an advanced 8-band parametric which is flexible and allows you to customize it's band architecture.
Could it replace them or can you explain what it does?
I couldn't possibly say that Spectrum could replace anything specifically, but the only thing I see it undoubtedly not being able to do when compared to the devices you originally asked about in your first post is the split stereo & M/S processing in BX-digital.
Could it analyse the EQ spectrum of say a CD you like and duplicate the settings (kind of- as I asked this question in another post and apparently these analyser things don't really work so accurately)?
No, it could not 'automatically' perform spectrum matching. I recommend reading Wolf's PDF manual for Spectrum, as he explains the device very well.

There's also Wolf's free 8-band eq which Spectrum was based on, some nice morphing Eqs by Casper & some recent EQ devices by McCyrano (check out his MOVEQ+ in detail & read the manual for it) Sorry if I've missed out any other alternatives here.

I haven't commented on the DAS devices simply because I don't own them. I've checked out all of the demos & the only one that I instantly wanted was their original MSeq (the black & red one) which was announced just after BX-dig', but never released. Now, I don't think I'll be needing it anyway.
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i know lots of engineers in TV land, and i can tell you that their people skills tend to be zero - i wonder if this is what's happening with Eric? i can't believe he has a studio and actually deals with musicians' egos - i mean what does he do? Tell them their ideas are shit and shut up and play your instruments (if you can, you're probably just bloody loopers anyway!).

Great sales technique (i like to deal with people who don't have an attitude - so i won't be dealing with you - sale lost).
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get a frequency analyzer/eq

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atomic marshmallow, ..don't waist your time with just an analyzer, which you can get anywhere, get the www.har-bal.com, its latest version can match eq curves and loudness, has harmonic indicators, and subtle editing capabilities, this is not the same as an Sbc as , check out a demo, its a help
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It's such an interesting outcome to what could've been an interesting conversation about Scope EQs & the definition of a high end Scope EQ, which in my opinion, they ALL are if they're well built circuits. So what if they all sound different.? That's what seperates & defines them from one-another imo (as I've already suggested) That's what we want. We want a broad spectrum of devices which provide unique sounds & functions or functionality. Vintage emulations? Bring 'em on.
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nahh Shroomz, it's more like your earlier assumption - everything is kind of high-end on this platform - even a simple sawtooth on scope can be considered that, regarding sound alone (and leaving marketing gimmicks aside)

sorry Wired, for hi-jacking just one short moment as I mention synaesthtics in the EQ thread... and you present a perfect example
Wired wrote:..., get the www.har-bal.com, its latest version can match eq curves and loudness, has harmonic indicators, and ...
this is no kidding (you may call me insane, granted!), but I would NEVER install anything that is called har-bal, let alone use it.
the name is disgusting for me, it's almost hard to write...
of course I know it's nonsense, from the functional viewpoint, but it really is like that :oops:
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Mr Arkadin wrote:i know lots of engineers in TV land, and i can tell you that their people skills tend to be zero - i wonder if this is what's happening with Eric? i can't believe he has a studio and actually deals with musicians' egos - i mean what does he do? Tell them their ideas are shit and shut up and play your instruments (if you can, you're probably just bloody loopers anyway!).

Great sales technique (i like to deal with people who don't have an attitude - so i won't be dealing with you - sale lost).
Mr Arkadin wrote:This is just a general observation, but it relates to my trials of the demos of SL9000 and Poltec, but is probably applicable to other EQs. So here's the winter deals - i'm hearing all this talk about channel strips and 'that' sound (whatever that is) and i thought i'd give them a go.

So i start fiddling, this is fun, hit a button accidently and WOW! what a sound, punchy, clear - what did i just do? i eventually realised i'd hit the Bypass button and was getting the raw sound with no processing. i couldn't find a setting i liked. This may in part be due to my lack of understanding of these devices, but i do know what EQ is :P

So this begs the question: what the hell do you use these things for? i tend to use EQ to cut - just a highpass usually to clean up those lows, but rarely use EQ within a mix. Is it a case of picking the right sounds to begin with (which is what i hope i'm doing)? Are EQs really necessary? i've occasionally used GraphEQ but apart from the cutting shelves, that's it.

i feel i'm using an inadequate amount of EQ.
hey mr arkadin or mr mythoman who knows lot of sound engineers..maybe you should asked them what is a bypass button ? i have question for you : where is the bypass button on sl9000 ?...
and don't be afraid , stupid guis like you don't put only one finger in my studio...
happy to have lots of customers who knows what are bypass and knows what is an eq made for ....
next time ,stay with yours stupid friends and don't talk with true sound engineers...you don't know how i'm happy to not have you as customers !
always mailing me like that : " hi eric, can you tell me what is the bypass button ...if i want to have good sound how can i do to change hi freq ?..."

i understand why nobody here can hear phase problem and distortion on some free plugins...
next time you write polteq,use the true name ...even that you are not able to write so ,it's normal to don't know what is a bypass...you should continue to post..it's so funny to see how wired is right !
Wired wrote:wow, these 'fellow engineer' friends of yours Das are a bit toxic, i think you are dealing with 'techies', not sound engineers, so their experience is limited, ...i have many friends in planetz who know much about computers , but don't have real experience with sound engineering or haven't developed the ears to mix right.. So don't be bothered to argue, they won't have your plugs, ..so only some of us will have your sounds. Take the high road, ...like all immature people, ...they come around some day...maybe not tomorrow
wired you are so far from the reality...those guis are more than unexperimented..they are stupid and mythoman....

eric ,the true sound engineer who is defending from attacks of only 5 stupid members in planetrz who wants to shoot a true pro...how stupid is this...nevermind..

un con restera con toute sa vie..sauf s'il cherche a progresser...c'est ça la vraie vie et non celle que vous vivez sur le net...
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:o gosh - you answered my question ! :D
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Hey, by all accounts, it's starting to look like Eric from DAS thinks that we are all 'stupid' here. I sincerely hope not.
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Shroomz wrote:Hey, by all accounts, it's starting to look like Eric from DAS thinks that we are all 'stupid' here. I sincerely hope not.
toi,tu commences vraiment a me gongler !!!

"eric ,the true sound engineer who is defending from attacks of only 5 stupid members in planetz who wants to shoot a true pro...how stupid is this...nevermind.. "

shroomz are you alone in planetz ?is planetz yours ?

planetz is is not only 5 stupid guis like you ...how many good members are here ? a lot ,and a lot of digitalaudiosoft customers too..thanks to them again.
only 5 stupid members in planetz who wants to shoot a true pro..

now,playing this shit game,makes me tired...good night
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digitalaudiosoft wrote:
Shroomz wrote:Hey, by all accounts, it's starting to look like Eric from DAS thinks that we are all 'stupid' here. I sincerely hope not.
toi,tu commences vraiment a me gongler !!!

"eric ,the true sound engineer who is defending from attacks of only 5 stupid members in planetz who wants to shoot a true pro...how stupid is this...nevermind.. "

shroomz are you alone in planetz ?is planetz yours ?

planetz is is not only 5 stupid guis like you ...how many good members are here ? a lot ,and a lot of digitalaudiosoft customers too..thanks to them again.
only 5 stupid members in planetz who wants to shoot a true pro..

now,playing this shit game,makes me tired...good night
Eric, you are undoubtedly more unhinged than myself (which is really saying something) :lol:
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Eric is the type of guy whom can be given a razorblade and be told to be very carefull with it - he then predictable enthusiastic starts cutting himself untill the blood is all over the place, while shouting I'll get you :-D
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Well i don't wish to big myself up, but i think i'm quite well respected on planet z (as are astro, Schroomz and others) and i think a personal attack on me is foolish - but that's for for you to decide. It was Polteq's bypass i was referring to, sorry if i didn't make that clear. And yes i'm a professional in the UK television industry - you are obviously not a professional as client liaison is as much a part of working with people as the technical stuff - you have shown your skills here to everyone. You look foolish and hot-headed, me i'm just laughing. Oh, and a true pro doesn't have to keep banging on about how much of a true pro they are...

PS. Could i suggest you put a bypass button on the SL9000 :wink: ?
you don't know how i'm happy to not have you as customers !
always mailing me like that : " hi eric, can you tell me what is the bypass button ...if i want to have good sound how can i do to change hi freq ?..."
So if a customer did email you you would call them idiots? Nice. Me i would answer their question politely, even if i had no monetary gain to make (like trying to help people here on the z and other sites - unlike you i don't adopt a snobbish attitude to people who don't yet have my knowledge - i may learn something from them too). You my friend are a snob pure and simple.
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hey mr arkadin or mr mythoman
Hmmm... mythoman... i like the sound of that.
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DAS's attitude and communication style looks like...eh...how to call it...wait a minute, lemme think...looks like...ah, yes, now I know,
it looks like coming from the Stone Age... :-D
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too funny

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now get back to work y'all
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righty, righty - right, Martin

I post that mysterious 5-friends question and ask 2 times, but the to**er doesn't smell the warning and goes right into the trap :D

he doesn't need my (or anyone's) advice because he's entirely spinning in a self centered universe around a self defined center-eric whose experiences are entirely self-referenced
his attitude could explain why he seems to work under at least 3 different pseudos ;)

cheers, Tom
explicit content removed - and as french pun goes: let's get back to dissness :P

btw that post is a joke - like EV would have expected it - it's (also) entirely constructed and doesn't EVen reflect it's author's opinion
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his attitude could explain why he seems to work under at least 3 different pseudos
Well someone has to buy his products :lol:
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