Hi folks,
by controlling the remote I meant it could be done by just having the gui on the host, sending something simple as midi to the dedicated machine..... after all midi learn works since the very beginning.
And the means of connecting things, ADAT do have jitter etc, always!
And I would like to separate the effects from the synths, using the effects in XTC mode .....
I can live with anything, but I will miss SPL stuff.
So why can't this be done in a proper manner?
scope 4.5
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hubird
Guys, I'm so-ho happy that CWA is still alife... 
Imagine how we would feel if we were working on a song whyle knowing every devellopment of the platform was ended...
Every move of CWA is intended to generate mony, and they will get mony from it, that's for sure.
This offer will address almost everyone with any Scope system, I don't know the userbase numbers but a 20.000 times € 100,- makes a nice number already.
We all will benefit from that, in the next future
Imagine how we would feel if we were working on a song whyle knowing every devellopment of the platform was ended...
Every move of CWA is intended to generate mony, and they will get mony from it, that's for sure.
This offer will address almost everyone with any Scope system, I don't know the userbase numbers but a 20.000 times € 100,- makes a nice number already.
We all will benefit from that, in the next future
That's the spirit Hubird 
Had time to sleep on this & in actual fact there absolutely *must* be something we're missing, or should I say something which Creamware aren't telling, either because it's a secret or because it would be stating the obvious. So to state the obvious, here's a few facts :
> The ASB boxes run on new 200 Mhz Sharcs.
> We believe there will be a new generation Scope at some point 'soon'.
> CWA recently stated that they had SFP running on new gen' Sharcs
> They have ported their new Pro-12 which was designed for ASB ... to Scope !
> They have apparently released a 'bundle' as an OS upgrade naming it Scope 4.5.
Reading between the lines & filling in the missing pieces just a little, it may well be that this is indeed the first release of a new framework designed to accomodate the next generation.
At the very least if there are actually no changes or updates to the OS, then CWA must be doing the groundwork, laying the foundations of what's to follow by adjusting their packages to suit some new model they've devised. These details they will certainly not make public, so it's anyone's guess really.
Bottom line is that I think CWA thought they could kill 2 birds with one stone: Make 50,000 to 100,000 Euros to pay bills for further ASB developement & give a whole bunch of Scope users a X-mas present of a bundle deal at the same time.
Looking at the big picture it is quite confusing as to what's actually going on & one thing in particular which I don't really understand is that it seems that this deal only applies if you currently own S&S pack or M&M pack. ?
Not sure at the moment, but that's how it reads. I may be mistaken though.
Had time to sleep on this & in actual fact there absolutely *must* be something we're missing, or should I say something which Creamware aren't telling, either because it's a secret or because it would be stating the obvious. So to state the obvious, here's a few facts :
> The ASB boxes run on new 200 Mhz Sharcs.
> We believe there will be a new generation Scope at some point 'soon'.
> CWA recently stated that they had SFP running on new gen' Sharcs
> They have ported their new Pro-12 which was designed for ASB ... to Scope !
> They have apparently released a 'bundle' as an OS upgrade naming it Scope 4.5.
Reading between the lines & filling in the missing pieces just a little, it may well be that this is indeed the first release of a new framework designed to accomodate the next generation.
At the very least if there are actually no changes or updates to the OS, then CWA must be doing the groundwork, laying the foundations of what's to follow by adjusting their packages to suit some new model they've devised. These details they will certainly not make public, so it's anyone's guess really.
Bottom line is that I think CWA thought they could kill 2 birds with one stone: Make 50,000 to 100,000 Euros to pay bills for further ASB developement & give a whole bunch of Scope users a X-mas present of a bundle deal at the same time.
Looking at the big picture it is quite confusing as to what's actually going on & one thing in particular which I don't really understand is that it seems that this deal only applies if you currently own S&S pack or M&M pack. ?
Not sure at the moment, but that's how it reads. I may be mistaken though.
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hubird
Well, be happy because you don't have to have SnS or MnM to profit from the offer along that side, according to the latest reportsOn 2005-12-02 02:37, Shroomz wrote:
which I don't really understand is that it seems that this deal only applies if you currently own S&S pack or M&M pack. ?
Not sure at the moment, but that's how it reads. I may be mistaken though.
Agree with your analysis btw, the signs are promising.
And multiply your estimation of revenues by 10 to 50...almost every SFP user will upgrade sooner or later (except Stardust who has all plugs
!CWA now has two mony streams:
one slow but consistent stream from the ASB line
and one fast explosive stream during next two months.
Meaning: they can invest immediately (in programmers for example), and there is some garantee to keep things going then.
Does this sound positive or does it sound positive
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There is hope Stardust
Hubird, this is how it is for our studio :
> We own S&S and M&M packs.
> We own a Noah with all software available.
> We've been waiting for the Prophet on Noah.
> We will wait for Pro-12 on Noah.
> We won't upgrade to get the SBC devious.
> We will upgrade a luna card to 4.5 just to check it out (on a test system)
that about sums it up I think
Hubird, this is how it is for our studio :
> We own S&S and M&M packs.
> We own a Noah with all software available.
> We've been waiting for the Prophet on Noah.
> We will wait for Pro-12 on Noah.
> We won't upgrade to get the SBC devious.
> We will upgrade a luna card to 4.5 just to check it out (on a test system)
that about sums it up I think
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hubird
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Hi all.
Does anyone know what a Scope Card v4.5 costs these days? I see prices of 507 euros for Home (Luna) with v4.0, is there any increase for the new v 4.5? (and so on for the other cards). There are no prices for hardware on CW or Scope cos they are local I suppose.
My 2 cents: this is a GREAT deal, but they are confusing things by calling it an upgrade, as it isn't, obviously. It's a package deal. Quite how they promote that is anyone's guess. Good luck to them. But I can see why people with bugs get annoyed when they aren't fixed, as v4 didn't bugfix either.
Scope is like a majestic galleon drifting off over the horizon of computer innovation (I just watched Pirates of the Caribbean, aarrr shipmates!!)
Home is a fantastic deal at 500 eu, even if not much can be run on it; with Vinco it would be almost complete for a beginner.
I have all the types, Luna 2, Z link 8 IO, Pulsar 2, and an SRB. All the extras and 3rd party stuff. What fun! Unfortunately I never have any time these days to do any music (it's a hobby) so I might be selling it all via the forum - will decide soon. Weirdly this upgrade has made me pause... just more collecting I suppose.
Toodle pip.
Does anyone know what a Scope Card v4.5 costs these days? I see prices of 507 euros for Home (Luna) with v4.0, is there any increase for the new v 4.5? (and so on for the other cards). There are no prices for hardware on CW or Scope cos they are local I suppose.
My 2 cents: this is a GREAT deal, but they are confusing things by calling it an upgrade, as it isn't, obviously. It's a package deal. Quite how they promote that is anyone's guess. Good luck to them. But I can see why people with bugs get annoyed when they aren't fixed, as v4 didn't bugfix either.
Scope is like a majestic galleon drifting off over the horizon of computer innovation (I just watched Pirates of the Caribbean, aarrr shipmates!!)
Home is a fantastic deal at 500 eu, even if not much can be run on it; with Vinco it would be almost complete for a beginner.
I have all the types, Luna 2, Z link 8 IO, Pulsar 2, and an SRB. All the extras and 3rd party stuff. What fun! Unfortunately I never have any time these days to do any music (it's a hobby) so I might be selling it all via the forum - will decide soon. Weirdly this upgrade has made me pause... just more collecting I suppose.
Toodle pip.