Euro 2004! Yeah baby!
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Ever seen the Irish equivalent? Makes the Aussie version look like a knitting session at the Woman's Institutewayne wrote:
Settle down, Royston, i'm a little sensitive in this area, what with the Adelaide Crows 14th on the ladder and everything...
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What's tonight...Holland v Germany isn't it?
Could cause a rift @ Planetz...

Fair play to Sweden last night - Bulgaria lost interest and Sweden stuffed them good 'n' proper.
Royston
"Gaelic Football is best described as a mixture of soccer and rugby, though it predates both of these. It is a field game which is also similar to Australian Rules Football. It is believed that Australian Rules Football evolved from Gaelic Football through the thousands of Irish people who were either deported or have emigrated to Australia since the middle of the nineteenth century. The origins of Gaelic football predate recorded history"
http://www.dublinuncovered.net/gaelic.html
yes, Spirit, europe is crazy about football, just like latin america. The most populars become legends like Pele, Beckenbauer, Maradona, Cruyff etc...
Kind of national monuments in their countries. You can watch one of those in this EM: Zidane. He will certainly been rated within the best 5 ever seen, when he finishes his career. I think even english fans can agree with this, after their resurrection from that incredible thing. Well, germans knew that already, special delivery by Manchester United for (our!) Bayern Munich in Barcelona. So thanks for the special return to sender delivery at the french-german friendship! Vive l'amitié franco-allemande! Allez les bleus!
Ok, I post that today, while it's still quiet here...
Now, for the rest of the day: We, again, will prevent these mobile living room flatlanders to take "revenge for king Johan".
Pack your orange bags and book your tickets for Amsterdam!
Astroman: ok, ok..., but I don't give up. Not yet.
EDIT: BTW: my favourite teams are HSV and ManU.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Micha on 2004-06-15 08:52 ]</font>
Kind of national monuments in their countries. You can watch one of those in this EM: Zidane. He will certainly been rated within the best 5 ever seen, when he finishes his career. I think even english fans can agree with this, after their resurrection from that incredible thing. Well, germans knew that already, special delivery by Manchester United for (our!) Bayern Munich in Barcelona. So thanks for the special return to sender delivery at the french-german friendship! Vive l'amitié franco-allemande! Allez les bleus!
Ok, I post that today, while it's still quiet here...
Now, for the rest of the day: We, again, will prevent these mobile living room flatlanders to take "revenge for king Johan".
Pack your orange bags and book your tickets for Amsterdam!
Astroman: ok, ok..., but I don't give up. Not yet.
EDIT: BTW: my favourite teams are HSV and ManU.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Micha on 2004-06-15 08:52 ]</font>
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Im really psyched up for the Germany - Holland game. Two great nations with a fair amount of rivalry going on.
Being half german myself (Aus Hessisch Lichtenau, ein klein dorf bei Kassel) I really hope for the krauts to get their act together
Being half german myself (Aus Hessisch Lichtenau, ein klein dorf bei Kassel) I really hope for the krauts to get their act together

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/Mahatma Gandhi
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Unlucky Latvia, CZE rolled them up in the second half.
40min. to go... to conquer the flatlanders..
Don´t get me wrong, once I was in Amsterdam during a soccer tournament and what the Netherlands activated during such a tournament in their cities was simply marvelous. The germans were only drunken...lol.
Best wishes to our neighbours, may the best team win in a fair game.
Tousands people are singing and pushing their feelings out in Porto, Germans like Flatlanders.
For example, 25000 fans are in a stadium in Amsterdam, to watch the match on a big screen.
Netherlands against Germany was always a special thing.
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40min. to go... to conquer the flatlanders..

Don´t get me wrong, once I was in Amsterdam during a soccer tournament and what the Netherlands activated during such a tournament in their cities was simply marvelous. The germans were only drunken...lol.
Best wishes to our neighbours, may the best team win in a fair game.
Tousands people are singing and pushing their feelings out in Porto, Germans like Flatlanders.
For example, 25000 fans are in a stadium in Amsterdam, to watch the match on a big screen.
Netherlands against Germany was always a special thing.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: ChrisWerner on 2004-06-15 14:17 ]</font>
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very interesting game, Spirit: strategically. The oranjes (=Dutch) hide their true force. If you want to win, you have to do six games and only 3 or 4 days in between matches. So you don't start full power. And the first three matches are in a group, so it is not necessary to win them all. This starts in match #4, that you HAVE to win to continue. So to speed down is logical, is n't it? Their best part is the offense. The best goalgetters play in Spain, England and Germany. And there they are best. So their system to play is 4-3-3:
4 defenders, 3 for the middle -the "transfer-section", 3 for the goals. Yesterday they started 4-2-3-1. Only 1 for the goals! And 6 for the defense! Aha, so they wanted to "let THEM play". Ok, that thing ended 0:1 for us and they had to do something to correct that: for the last 20 minutes they switched to 4-3-3 and 10 min later it was 1:1. Ours were not bad, so they didn't get another one.
Ok, maybe they book Amsterdam a little bit later.
EDIT: almost forgot: it was NOT their best front lineup they showed!
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Micha on 2004-06-16 05:31 ]</font>
Addendum: the important actors
the keeper
Germanys strength. Famous players: Turek, Trautmann, Mayer, Schumacher, Stein, Kahn, Lehmann.
A long tradition. Like Russia, with the most famous of them all: Lew Jaschin.
They can win a match, like Stein did against Platini and(!) Boniek, long time ago.
They were desperate... whatever came, he got it. The best "bomb killer" ever. (HSV, hehe)
A good keeper is king of the square called the 16 meter.
Whenever the "enemy comes" he has to organize the defense to prevent a goal.
So he is not counted in for the system analysis. His place is fixed anyway.
The only one allowed to use his hands inside the 16 meter.
The ability to catch the ball safely and to order precise and fast is his job.
If you have a "fly catcher" there, you can make as many goals as you can,
you'll always get one more.
The tragedy for many countries in the past...
Even France had this problem for a long time.
They had a dream transport layer in the 80th (Platini, Tigana, Giresse, Ghenghini)
- but their keeper...
And the transport layer "does" the game. The fight is always in the middle.
And the winner there usually wins.
Except you have a fly catcher behind.
Or no killer or "bomber" in front.
A killer is what you could see yesterday: "invisible" player, 1 lousy chance, one goal more.
Most famous: Müller, Di Stefano, Van Basten.
A bomber is what Zidane showed: distance about 20 m, speed about 100km/h, no chance for any keeper - upper left/right corners preferred.
Most famous: Pele, Platini, Boniek.
Maradona could do both.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Micha on 2004-06-16 07:10 ]</font>
4 defenders, 3 for the middle -the "transfer-section", 3 for the goals. Yesterday they started 4-2-3-1. Only 1 for the goals! And 6 for the defense! Aha, so they wanted to "let THEM play". Ok, that thing ended 0:1 for us and they had to do something to correct that: for the last 20 minutes they switched to 4-3-3 and 10 min later it was 1:1. Ours were not bad, so they didn't get another one.
Ok, maybe they book Amsterdam a little bit later.

EDIT: almost forgot: it was NOT their best front lineup they showed!
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Micha on 2004-06-16 05:31 ]</font>
Addendum: the important actors
the keeper
Germanys strength. Famous players: Turek, Trautmann, Mayer, Schumacher, Stein, Kahn, Lehmann.
A long tradition. Like Russia, with the most famous of them all: Lew Jaschin.
They can win a match, like Stein did against Platini and(!) Boniek, long time ago.
They were desperate... whatever came, he got it. The best "bomb killer" ever. (HSV, hehe)
A good keeper is king of the square called the 16 meter.
Whenever the "enemy comes" he has to organize the defense to prevent a goal.
So he is not counted in for the system analysis. His place is fixed anyway.
The only one allowed to use his hands inside the 16 meter.
The ability to catch the ball safely and to order precise and fast is his job.
If you have a "fly catcher" there, you can make as many goals as you can,
you'll always get one more.
The tragedy for many countries in the past...
Even France had this problem for a long time.
They had a dream transport layer in the 80th (Platini, Tigana, Giresse, Ghenghini)
- but their keeper...
And the transport layer "does" the game. The fight is always in the middle.
And the winner there usually wins.
Except you have a fly catcher behind.
Or no killer or "bomber" in front.
A killer is what you could see yesterday: "invisible" player, 1 lousy chance, one goal more.
Most famous: Müller, Di Stefano, Van Basten.
A bomber is what Zidane showed: distance about 20 m, speed about 100km/h, no chance for any keeper - upper left/right corners preferred.
Most famous: Pele, Platini, Boniek.
Maradona could do both.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Micha on 2004-06-16 07:10 ]</font>
heheOn 2004-06-15 16:59, samplaire wrote:
As my friend used to say (paraphrase of an old rule): father was respectable, mother was respectable and their son became a sport-commentator![]()
unfortunatelly i do afternoons this week

so i can only peek at games in janitor's room...
but i am very happy that Darek Szpakowski is back

for the rest of the world, we had sports commentator, that used to sound like he was heavily on something, and talk about things that nobody else could see, hehe.
he was removed from this work sometimes ago,
but he and some of his phrases are a living legend, so now he is back in game


for those reading in polish some sample
just because you cannot imagine something that doesn't exclude it from reality.
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