God is not great: How religion poisons everthing

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:55 am

God is a DJ.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:46 am

darkrezin wrote: All I will say is that your ignorance and pomposity is embarrassing and ugly to watch.

Likewise.

darkrezin wrote: I strongly advise you to educate yourself (and I don't just mean what your government decides it's safe for you to know) because you really make yourself look like an idiot. Note that I'm not saying you are an idiot, but you sure are doing a great job convincing everyone that you are one.

Insulting me, again, shows lack of character and integrity.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:23 am

I think we're done.

Post by **hubird** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:03 am

BingoTheClowno wrote:
hubird wrote:ah, quoting loose sentenses plus specific comments on them...that's mostly the end of...
Are you implying that I try to distort the meaning of what was said?

No, I'm saying that at this point people stop discussing really, the conversation stops communicating, all answers get cathegoric, and noone listens anymore with a free mind.
The focussing on the details (loose sentenses) is always symbolic for the loss of the overview

edit: ah, there's a word for it: micro-quoting...
thanks Stardust

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:53 am

kensuguro wrote:I think we're done.

Perhaps you should say you wish we are done.

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:39 am

I apologize if I insulted personally anyone. Now I am even more convinced that religion poisons everything. Shall we delete our posts now or leave this whopper of a thread for posterity?

manfriday · Post by **manfriday** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:40 am

Insulting me, again, shows lack of character and integrity.

Oh the irony..

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:46 am

manfriday wrote:
Insulting me, again, shows lack of character and integrity.
Oh the irony..

What's your grievance?

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:48 pm

Let me explain to you what having no relation to real life means: Someone who thinks there is an imaginary spirit in the sky watching over him.

The ironic part is when something bad happens, it's the will of the imaginary friend. Is he watching over you or not? You can't have it both ways. If he *is* watching you then why do bad things still happen? It is pointless to have an omnipotent god when he doesn't do anything.

stardust wrote:hmmmm

The extremist way of thinking and talking does not have a relation to real life anymore.
And... you guys know it.
.

arela · Post by **arela** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:20 pm

Rewind 1000 years!
http://www.heimskringla.no/norsk/edda/voluspa.php
Translated:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/poe/poe03.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lusp%C3%A1

pretty much what's going on today

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:38 pm

You make my point quite eloquently. Religion is hogwash. I think one of the most basic premises of most religions is a belief in god, and all the miracles are a part of that. It is clear in the bible that one is not to question god. That is why they call it "faith".

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:51 pm

Oh I get it, you're a Unitarian.

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:00 pm

braincell wrote:It is pointless to have an omnipotent god when he doesn't do anything.

why should an omnipotent god do anything that you like?

if such a god is also omniscient, then there's probably some info in there somewhere that you have no idea about. come back when you can see the whole picture. the universe doesn't work according to what's convienient for you. perhaps there are worse things that can happen....

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:23 pm

religion have never ruined anything. communication did.

if we all just shut the fuck up, and dont ever talk to eachother, we'll all live peacefully.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:37 pm

Sadly religion did ruin things and it is pointless and a big waste of time and money.

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:43 pm

to many ex.phil. degrees.

my humble answer is "ok".

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:26 pm

you cant have a god which is both omnipotent and onmiscient.

The two dont jive.... its illogical

seriously, if god knows everything then he knows what he will do next, therefore he is not omnipotent.... he is a slave to is omniscience.
however if he can do anything at anytime, then he cant possibly know everything, cos anything might change at any time. In accordance with his will. So his omnipotence destroys his omniscience.

Anything else is illogical.

remeber....weiners in buns, no condiments

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:38 pm

UNLESS God is a VERY good dj.

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:11 pm

who says god has to meet your standard of logic?

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:27 pm

O My God! Tasty of as whorehouse. Discordant lag!

(i just went all DaVinci and made an anagram out of garybs latest reply (more because im drunk than anything else) and discovered that God is really a Soundblaster!!!)