mix a vocal

Post by **garyb** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:09 pm

a mix forum would be fine if people wanted to talk about mixing...
as to the rest of the last post, yes!

blazesboylan · Post by **blazesboylan** » Fri Jul 16, 2004 4:03 pm

Sm57 review: http://www.mojopie.com/fletcher.html

I'm definitely doing something wrong with these mics.

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:38 am

In my experience SM57 are good for live sound,and close micing only for snares (top mic), toms and marshall stacks. Plus they're practically unbreakable. If I had a choice in a studio I wouldn't use them for anything else.
My two roubles

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:36 am

i'm sending vocal signal to rev like this:
aux1----rev left input
aux2----rev right input
but in this way i'm hearing some wired phase problem! or the sound is not right. Is this is the Right way to patch a rev? or it should patch like this:
aux1-----rev left input
aux1-----rev right input
using duel delay like this works great.
Thanks

Post by **garyb** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:02 am

there is no good reason to use stereo inputs on a verb used in an aux(though you can if you want to). just use one input.....

blazesboylan · Post by **blazesboylan** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 1:16 am

On 2004-07-19 02:02, garyb wrote:
there is no good reason to use stereo inputs on a verb used in an aux

What about on a drum bus, or for overheads? I.e. drums left -> aux 1, drums right -> aux 2.

To be perfectly honest I've never bothered, but it seems to me that if the reverb is well-constructed it will sound slightly different and more complex.

Cheers,

Johann

Post by **garyb** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:45 am

you'll still hear panning effects using a mono input and you'll have less chance of phase problems even with stereo sources, but once again, there's no law against using stereo inputs on a verb.

Kamurah · Post by **Kamurah** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:32 pm

I think the SM-57 is a fine mic.......now. I used to hate it running through my Digi-001 preamps.

It is definitely a mic that needs a really good preamp to bring out what it is capable of. I use mine with an Amek 9098 pre for almost all my vocals nowadays.

Here is a 30 second snippet of me singing with the Amek / SM-57 combo:

http://www.planetz.com/Pulsar/files/music/Vocalbnce.mp3

I actually like it better than my LD condensers (most of the time).

Cheers

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:50 pm

i think that is because the preamp you have.
and thats way i'm not getting much with AKG3000B + joemeekVC3Q. need to change my mic pre first. thanks Kamurah... nice song

sandrob · Post by **sandrob** » Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:23 am

On 2004-07-05 12:12, firubbi wrote:
can you show some example of mix a vocal...
last day i use the pitch shift(left+10..right-10) and found great result. but can't set the rev maybe the vocal is poor. any eq tips will be Great.
thanks

try to put waves doubler 4 in the vocal's group chanel, then mute dry signal and use only wet. if you take care about mono compactibility then take a look to corelation meter.

firubbi · Post by **firubbi** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:33 am

Thanks sandrob... putting pitch shift is almost same as chorus fx. it works great with poor vocals. did you listen the band Corrs?...that album.. In Blue? what a class vocal.... how they mix?

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:18 am

Also try different mics for different vox. Some people's vox sound infinitely better with a M69 than a Shure 57/58 for example. I myself used to use a beta 58 a lot. Condensers are the go though!!