MY PC HANGS ALL THE TIME

Freakguitar · Post by **Freakguitar** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:47 pm

hi everybody...
im running my pulsar 2 platform into a PIV 2800 with 2 Gig. ram QDI motherboard and cubase sx2...everything i got in this pc is original..not copy...
The thing is that i open cubase and when im playing midi..for ex.through my keyboard...my computer crahs...i don´t know what the hell to do...Please help me!!!

Post by **hubird** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:36 pm

priority settings, or active sensing of the keyboard, or an USB-->card IRQ conflict...
(Am I close boys?

)

Freakguitar · Post by **Freakguitar** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:13 pm

i got irq 10 for pulsar..there is no conflicts with usb

Post by **garyb** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:16 pm

what other device is using irq 10?

Freakguitar · Post by **Freakguitar** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:52 pm

irq its only used by pulsar

Freakguitar · Post by **Freakguitar** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:53 pm

i mean...irq 10 its only used by pulsar...

Post by **garyb** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:47 pm

is it a crash or a freeze? i am not familiar with that motherboard, what chipset does it have? do you have a manufacturer's link? does it help to plug in the midi keyboard after starting the computer?

there are a few things that will cause a freeze with midi, especially with cubase. mostly it is a feedback loop that you want to avoid. crashes are usually caused by a hardware problem(memory, graphic card or motherboard).

maybe you could give more details as to exactly what steps you take in having the problem, exactly what hardware you are using and a list of all the irqs...

Labman · Post by **Labman** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:04 am

Get a Mac. I have tried and tried with PCs and Pulsar. I am having the exact same problem and this is my 4th PC I'm trying it with. Don't get me wrong there's nothing more I want than to get my system working properly (because the product is very good if you can get it working)but I'm running out of options. I also have a Protools system running on Mac and it is faultless, no worrying about system conflicts, irqs, what slot it's in etc.

Labman · Post by **Labman** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:09 am

Oh....i forgot to say that I did install the pulsar card into my Mac as an experiment and it took no special tweeking at all and sat there and ran for hours on end without a problem. PCs suc at Music or is it just me and PCs.

Aries · Post by **Aries** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:28 am

Could it be a midi feedback loop:-

keyboard -> computer -> keyboard -> computer -> .............

A midi feedback loop will cause a freeze.

Post by **garyb** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 5:37 am

macs have top quality hardware. the possibilities are limited by apple(as to hardware combinations)for better and worse. they are a little simpler to operate but they cost a lot more. a pc with the right, good quality parts is nearly as turnkey as a mac and it is as stable. when a pc doesn't work, the reason is usually straightforward, even if it seems a little crazy to suss out.

i can honestly say thay the last 3 computers i built were almost completely turnkey. windows is a much more ambitious thing than mac os9. i'm sure that fact makes os9 much easier to work with and much less of a strain to the system. most of the tweaking involves removing that excess baggage from windows. mac users can calm down though. osx will eventually put them in the same boat as pc users....

if the hardware is not broken, most pcs will run well, but one does have to be patient and know that performance will be less if one has a less than optimal motherboard. often the difference in price between a cheap, bullshit motherbaord and a good one is $0. this causes confusion sometimes...

i'm sure this machine can be made useful with the proper information.

valis · Post by **valis** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:36 am

Disable HT in your BIOS...this has been a problem with SFP under SX for quite some time...

Rob van Berkel · Post by **Rob van Berkel** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:40 am

I agree GaryB, and buying a mac is no solution to having some initial problems with a pc... Step one in setting up a DAW could involve the choice between PC and Mac, but when that choice is made (it obviously is, in this case) buying a mac is no solution. (but a way of launching another Mac vs. PC discussion)
I will not enter such discussion. (oops, I think I just did

)

Cheers,
Rob

Post by **hubird** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:20 am

mac works: hardware + system software = 1
pc is 'modular', so more risky.
It's a choice

I hope some spontanious promoting of Mac like Labman did (based on own experience), will be allowed.
Many pc adapts don't know the alternative and think macs are something weird and unreasonable expensive.
In fact it's mobo talk, after all, and you like that

Plato · Post by **Plato** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:35 am

Well, I'm not getting into the Mac/Pc debate.....what about a bit of lateral thinking ? - check your Scope project is set up correctly for a start - are you experienced with Scope (sorry to ask, but if you've got any sort of feedback loop - audio or midi it could bring your system down).
You should certainly have enough PC power to work well....give us more details and we should start getting somewhere.

Freakguitar · Post by **Freakguitar** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 5:04 pm

hey you all!!!...Thanxs to all for reply my message!!!
I´ve solve the problem buying a usb desktop keyboard with music keys included by creative. Before, when problem was there i tried everything you recommend to me but...it doesn´t work!!! now im trying to buy a usb midi interface...wich one you recommend to me?? Thanx guys

Post by **garyb** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:50 pm

for cubase, midex3 or midex6 by steinberg.