Does anyone know how to get the digital screeching effect us

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Post by cleanbluesky »

I love that sound, my computer has also made that sound if the CPU freezes while playing audio...

But how would one replicate it?
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I am not sure which sound you have in mind.

But when you talk about the scene when Neo sits on a chair and a silber liquid creeps above his body right into his throat, then that sound.

It´s made with time stretch effects. The sts 5000 can handel that, if I remember right.

Another way would be the Kontakt sampler.
If you can use Kontakt I can give you a hint.
Choose a vocal sample, load it in Kontakts Time Machine mode, assign the Speed and Smooth button to a modwheel of a synth and travel through the vocal.

I hope this can help you.


EDIT:
Once I played around with that time machine, here:
http://www.music-by.net/04/tracks_remix/010030.mp3

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Post by scary808 »

The STS5000's time stretch pitch shift is it's strongest feature. I like assigning the pitch bend to the stretch.
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Post by cleanbluesky »

Thanks for the info, i can sort-of get the sound if I use time-stretching and slow the sample down a lot - is it the time-stretching that keeps the pitch whlie changing the length of the sample? Mine sounds a little ragged, as a lot of time-stretching algorhytms do... what is the best?
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Post by ChrisWerner »

Well ragged is the right word.
When you slow down the sample, decrease the original time of a sample with time stretch effects, you get this ragged thing more and more.

I.E. the word Love can end in looooooovvvvee, with the same pitch, it´s a bit tricky to get a nice result, just try and error.

I can only speak for Kontakt because I have no other time stretch effect or instrument.

An other thing that comes in my mind, though.

If you work with Cubase, there is a time stretch tool when you right click with your mouse on the arrangement window. The pencil with the clock sign. It works not bad for my taste. Just click on a sample and stretch it with the pencil as long you want.

But I am sure other Sequencer programs have time stretch functions, too.

Good luck.

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Post by scary808 »

I'd bet that the sound in question was created with a Kyma system...
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probably, Flexor wasn't released yet... :grin:
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Post by cleanbluesky »

What is a Kyma system? What is Flexor?
I read that they used TC Electronics System 6000, high high-end (very) multichannel multiFX system to do a lot of the audio work on the Matrix films... or perhaps just the last two (last two awful films)...
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Kyma X (and capybara320)
Another external dsp box, but this one is intended to (in the current version) be used alongside an OsX or WinXP machine for editing & control. Used by names like Autechre so it has the geek-tech sex appeal.

Adern's Flexor
Extensions for the Creamware Modular (II&III) shell. I'd suggest following the link and reading the page for more info...

TC System 6000
System6000 is external multi-channel dsp that is geared towards the typical 'multifx' type of effects (as cleanbluesky said) with 'processing features' that you can rent or buy as needed...compression/eq/pitchshift up to 'world class' reverbs (TC's wording). Not comparable to the other two packages really in terms of depth but for production environments I would assume it lives up to its reputation. TC does have good marketing doesn't it :smile:


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I'm a newb to electronic music, I mostly record audio and use effects with my CW card...
what does the Flexor do exactly? It seems cool, especially that Displacer Vox sample...
If these are modules for the modular synth then how can one run audio through them?
What else can the modular synth do?
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Post by Michu »

modular is just a shell that comes in 2in 4out, 4in 4out and 8in 8out flavours.
you can fill it with modules however you like.
you can make synths as well as effects.
as it sports also mono and stereo inserts as modules you can even make complicated multieffects with it.

Flexor is additional set of modules made by Red Muze. it sports excelent filters and waveshapers as well as bunch of other of very useful modules, like granular stuff.
to get most of it, it requires fairly good understanding of what you want to do.

be aware tho', that getting under the hood of synthesis is an entire discipline that can distract very well from actual music making :wink:
just because you cannot imagine something that doesn't exclude it from reality.
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Post by medway »

I'm pretty positive that effect was done using the GRM Freeze plugin. I taught a post production class that used that plug and from what I heard the sound where his voice falls down like shattered glass was Freeze. Sorry I haven't seen the movie though so can't say for sure.
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Post by cleanbluesky »

I was wondering whether GRM Tools had anything to do with it - they are designed for off-the wall effects...
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