HELP! why this 500euros luna II is not a midi card

SlideDexter · Post by **SlideDexter** » Mon May 24, 2004 7:55 am

i have the same freeze problem as everyone said in this forum
please help
i can work on mypc for 2 months
whats wrong?
i havent any problem with my ol p4 2.4 ghs machine?!?!?
now im with

p4 2.8 1mb cache
1024 dual ddram
320gb serial ata raid drives
luna II
XP

and it freezes with looped sound

please if anyone found a solution without buying anything new tell me
if not the CREAMWARE is not good right?
i didnt bought it just for audio
i bought it for midi too

PLEASE HELP
thanks!

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Mon May 24, 2004 7:58 am

I don't use Luna so I can't give you specifics.. Maybe you should also list up your motherboard model and maybe someone can help you out.

Can you also describe in deeper detail about how and when you machine freezes? From what you speak of, it sounds like you're having trouble specificaly with MIDI?

Anyhow, this board is loaded with people with years of experience, so relax and just wait a bit.

Welcome aboard!

[ This Message was edited by: kensuguro on 2004-05-24 09:03 ]

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon May 24, 2004 8:38 am

Hi there.

I use Luna II for both midi and audio, only problem ive experienced is hanging notes, but thats probarly not luna related.

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Mon May 24, 2004 10:48 am

Hi,
try to connect your midi-cable AFTER scope was started..

best,
andre

ibenko · Post by **ibenko** » Mon May 24, 2004 7:25 pm

No problem whatsoever using Luna as midi and audio card. You have bought great hardware, I guess you just haven't done everything alright when installing. I can't really help you in any way, but it helps to know, that things work elsewhere, so there must be a way to do it. Try installing the newest drivers for your mainboard and read trough this forum.

Best luck!

Best regards, Igor

deejaysly · Post by **deejaysly** » Tue May 25, 2004 4:40 am

I use one Pulsar II and two Scope SRBs. I have transferred the I/O extension of another Pulsar II card to one of the Scope SRBs. I also have a StudioLogic MIDI controller and an old Casio keyboard.

I found that I could get the SRB with the I/O to work with both the Casio and the StudioLogic. But the older I/O board on the Pulsar II will only work with the Casio keyboard.

I think, yet Creamware wasn't convinced, that I have a slight difference between the two cards. Not sure whether it is with the I/O parts or the Scope/Pulsar cards themselves.

With this all I will say is that some people seem to have problems with stuck notes and some people don't. I think that in these cases different people could have slightly different variations of the same card (luna). I am talking more of the programmable logic/firmware on the boards themselves! Or there maybe a compatability issue (MIDI) between the Creamware boards and the outboard MIDI stuff that it is being interfaced with, i.e. my case above could be either really with the Casio being old and the StudioLogic being more recent.

This is my experience but would need investigate further to confirm my suspicions but it is not unheard of.

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Tue May 25, 2004 6:26 am

well, the stuck notes problem seemed related to too much traffic going to the MIDI port. (like MIDI clock) So turning off MIDI clock on the keyboard side seems to solve the problem for most cases.

I'm not too sure what this "freezes with MIDI" problem is tho.. seems different from the stuck notes problem.

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:34 am

Try Andre D's advice (four messsages above). There's lots of posts on this forum about midi traffic on the Scope midi source causing XP machines to freeze. It seems to be related to "Active sensing" midi data sent by external midi keyboards. Happens mainly with motherboards using Intel 875 chipset.
There are a number of solutions, but the easiest is Andre's, posted above.

/dave

SlideDexter · Post by **SlideDexter** » Tue May 25, 2004 2:54 pm

i dont use clock setting i can turn off the active sensing and it freezes when i enter some midi imformation
nomatter when i insert the midi keyboard!

any other help?

SlideDexter · Post by **SlideDexter** » Tue May 25, 2004 2:54 pm

PROBABLY its 875 problem

anyone who settled this problem without buying other midi card?

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Tue May 25, 2004 3:03 pm

"and it freezes with looped sound" is a little ambiguous!

Instead of succumbing to your anger feelings, why don't you take your time and explain your setup in details: what sequencer did you use, what setting in it, what drivers did you use (DS, Wave, ASIO), what external hardware if any etc. Is the crash repeatable, what steps did you take so maybe we can recreate it etc.

Post by **hubird** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:41 pm

Post by **hubird** » Tue May 25, 2004 7:58 pm

OT

[ This Message was edited by: hubird on 2004-05-26 15:38 ]

SlideDexter · Post by **SlideDexter** » Wed May 26, 2004 2:05 pm

I know that im angry but see this site:

http://www.tascamgiga.com/models.php?ty ... re_scopesp

i know youll say its not verufied but lets go strat to the point!

NO SEQUENCER NOTHING!!!
only XP service pack 1 and SFP driver

and the system crashes 5-20 minutes every time i enter midi data

i emailed the support no one answere

reply please

valis · Post by **valis** » Wed May 26, 2004 2:26 pm

Did you make sure that you have the same number of midi source/dest pairs in your project as you have specified ports in the creamware driver properties?

SlideDexter · Post by **SlideDexter** » Wed May 26, 2004 4:58 pm

ok! that with the source dest numbers and driver numbers maybe is a problem but i dont know where from should i change them

can you please help me??

in the routing window i have 1 source dest module and where should i set in windows 1 midi module???>

thanks

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Wed May 26, 2004 5:04 pm

> XP's Device Manager > Creamware driver properties.

[edit] RTFM
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More has been done with less.

[ This Message was edited by: at0m|c on 2004-05-26 18:16 ]

SlideDexter · Post by **SlideDexter** » Thu May 27, 2004 2:29 pm

HI!
its done its set to 1 mifi in and out and it crashes again!
anyone with ideas?
its not from hypertreating

Post by **garyb** » Thu May 27, 2004 10:28 pm

look, if zimmer uses creamware and giga, anyone can.

there are some controllers which seem to cause freezes in scope, especially when added to cubase sx. personally, i have used mpcs, akai, yamaha dx7, roland u20, roland rd350, korg triton, several cheap yamaha personal keybaords(toys) and others, all without a single glitch. there have also been numerous modules by all manufacturers.

every freeze i HAVE seen(which were on a freinds machine), were caused by massive traffic due to a midiclock loop or heavy sysex. probably the cwa buffer is not as huge as it could be, but it is certainly useable for most situations. probably, there is a setting that could be changed on your controller and i know you don't want to hear this, but if you need to use that controller, you might try a cheap usb device(midex3 if useing cubase) or a serial device. less than $100 will probably help if you don't find the setting.

there are so many possibilities for why you have computer problems. i know nothing about how your machine is set up and i really know nothing about the hardware you are using. for all i know, you have a bad irq conflict or a messed up os. really, i'm just guessing about things so good luck!

SlideDexter · Post by **SlideDexter** » Mon May 31, 2004 4:32 pm

hi!dye
thanks for help
but just in addition
i dont have cubase or anything on my system
yes its porbably from my korg is40 keyboard
but whats a giant midi imformation?10kb?15kb?
can 30ghz processor crash from a 15 kb midi data?
or creamware crashes?

i dont know
just in addition
i still have that problem
and i know it will work with 100$usb
but why then creamware midi dont works?

it worked with the same controler on 2.4ghz pentium4!!