Creamware Stand at Music Fair Frankfurt

criote · Post by **criote** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:45 am

Was anyone at the stand ?
Any impressions ?

valis · Post by **valis** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:47 am

Sonic State reportedly saw this at the stand:

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=1465

darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:29 am

Yep, I saw that thing.. very nicely built piece of kit, although rather expensive..

Also, I could not figure out what the buttons above the pitch and mod wheels do.

decimator · Post by **decimator** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 12:15 pm

I got this link from kvr : http://www.noisetime.com/mm04/

BingoTheClowno · Post by **BingoTheClowno** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 3:59 pm

The "Real Analog Stuff" at the end is cool

Basic Pitch · Post by **Basic Pitch** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:15 pm

I only hope CW releases a E Piano/Rhodes type synth soon cause it would blow away anything out, I see NI has one in one of those screen shots..

I own Loung Lizard, but NI could do something pretty neat possibly, though I belive an SFP version could sound amazing if done right =)

Imagine the sonic character of Minimax done in a rhodes emulation

Yummmmmmyyyyy...

Cheers!

powerpulsarian · Post by **powerpulsarian** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 2:40 pm

FYI - Lounge Lizard is based on physical modeling, whereas the new NI electronic piano is sample based (like most others, including the Nord Electro).

Lounge Lizards is the best/most expressive electric piano emulation I have used. For Creamware to top Lounge Lizard, they would have to create something extraordinary.

Post by **hubird** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:40 pm

indeed, I would have bought it in december if I'd have known about the (recent) plans to support OS-X.
The price was halved then...

the thing is hard to beat, that's what I think also

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darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:57 pm

I must say I like the Lounge Lizard for the realistic timbre.. but have you guys checked out Ken Suguro's Modular rhodes patch (think it's called SeventyThree).. it's astoundingly deep-sounding and lush.. the depth of the sound goes way beyond the LL.. even though the LL has the edge in terms of realism of the initial attack.

Basic Pitch · Post by **Basic Pitch** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:07 am

Yep have Kens patch and love it dearly,

Only thing it cant give me that I like to use in my flavor of sound for a rhodes style is that distorted girtty stage case sound, just nasty and crackly

I have version 2of Loung Lizard and they really have added some spectacular tweaks to it, especially the EQ settings and the mallet control. I just have this feeling that CW could make something that sounds great.

The onlything LL cant do is give that Emagic sound of there EVP(sp?) Rhodes, there is a very sound warm tremlo style and sounds great, unfortunately its not PC compatible these days as far as I know, so I stick with LL and kens patch

Cheers!

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:32 am

we had a good time too @ musikmesse

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kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:15 pm

hehe, strange to see my patch put against the lounge lizard.. I think it beats me hands down tho.

I'm still trying to modify my patch to get the attack sound, but it's hard to keep the patch light as I need to add more modules. Can't wait 'till the SDK goes public.

Immanuel · Post by **Immanuel** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:55 pm

Uh - you making devices .. I have a feeling this may be kind of great

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:20 pm

On 2004-04-08 12:07, Basic Pitch wrote:
...The onlything LL cant do is give that Emagic sound of there EVP(sp?) Rhodes, there is a very sound warm tremlo style and sounds great, unfortunately its not PC compatible these days as far as I know, so I stick with LL and kens patch

hi, I have the EVP88, and honestly:
I once listened to Chick Corea's Return to Forever album (the one with the bird) and later fiddled around with the EVP

exactly the same sound, almost frightening.
It does run on PC, at least on Win 98

On the other hand I've turned more to the artificial line of epianos, and though Ken doesn't like the DXish ones

Needles to say that Ken's patch clearly points into the direction of possible SFP sound quality !

cheers, Tom
ps: since the EVP runs only in Logic (THAT's it's only real drawback) it's getting dusty here - I trade it in the 100 bucks range if someone's interested - it's unregistered.

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darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:42 am

Ken - I think you're too hard on yourself.. the sound of SeventyThree is just amazingly warm and lush compared to any VST.. it really is only the attack phase that it's missing. I even think that some sneaky use of samples would be justified in completing the sound..

valis · Post by **valis** » Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:02 am

Samples for attack would be perfectly acceptable if you can get a pack that scales well over 8 octaves. Seems to me its the decay and looping sections that always render non-disk-streamed sample based pianos poorly.