http://www.celmo.com/BAM_page.html
soon...
BAM !!!
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hubird
Demo version released on:
http://www.celmo.com
http://www.celmo.com
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hubird
originally I had a 'pre CBS' Fender Precision Bass from 1964, which got stolen.On 2004-02-05 20:39, wayne wrote:
ia headless status! way styley
In those days of early 90's I was playing in a techno 'band', and I was glad to have been forced to buy a more modern looking bassguitar, shorter and with modern materials like the graphite neck, which had a very equal tone performance.
A typical blues/rock instrument as the Fender isn't really a great statement in dance land
But I still have the original precision elements, coz I had changed them once to active EMG pickups, which were a more than perfect copy of them.
If I can make someone happy with them, well gimme a pm
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really great tones coming out of my guitar! next week i'm gonna buy a bass (not that it has anything to do with BAM, but hey).
this is a gem, this bam, and a demo some other guitar amp designers could learn from...
nice work, celmo, but why the old preset style???
damn, hubird, i would do real strange things to get a fender precission second hand at a special price, and you we're 'glad' you could exchange it for one of guitar history's most hilarious things: the headless axe'???
this is a gem, this bam, and a demo some other guitar amp designers could learn from...
nice work, celmo, but why the old preset style???
damn, hubird, i would do real strange things to get a fender precission second hand at a special price, and you we're 'glad' you could exchange it for one of guitar history's most hilarious things: the headless axe'???
andy
the lunatics are in the hall
the lunatics are in the hall
This new BAM seems a great stuff...!!
I've just ordered a copy.Another great device from our Celmar,the best developer in the Scope scene.
Keep it real,mate!
;O)
http://www.kwild.com
I've just ordered a copy.Another great device from our Celmar,the best developer in the Scope scene.
Keep it real,mate!
;O)
http://www.kwild.com
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hubird
hehe, well 'glad' was a too big word of course, but the Status was really top, my one was deep blue, you can get an impression here, take 'basses/S1 classic.On 2004-02-08 11:47, borg wrote:
damn, hubird, i would do real strange things to get a fender precission second hand at a special price, and you we're 'glad' you could exchange it for one of guitar history's most hilarious things: the headless axe'???
Not having the mechanics at the neck end was very practable, we had several weird outfitted 'dancers' on stage, with my Fender I once almost beheaded one of them!
With the Status I could pull it up up and towards my body, I got a very small turning circle, the dancers were as glad as myself with the thing, haha!
Besides, take a look at the linked picture, don't you feel the dimensions are much better proportioned than with the classical design?
And tuning is much easier with the knobs at the head-downnside of the body.
The word 'castrated' sometimes was used by some people, but you don't have to hang your dig out of your pant all day to be a man, eh?
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Yes... but never esthetically, there is something wrong in a sense... is like having a friend without a head...On 2004-02-08 19:50, wayne wrote:
i kind of feel weird when playing headless basses when down around the first fret - feels like i'm gonna fall off the edge!
i suppose you get used to it, tho.
*MUSIC* The most Powerful Language in the world! *INDEED*
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The BAM, put in simple words:
The former GAM, gave me the hope that one day, Celmar would do it for bass guitar, and fortunately he did it! So first of all, thank you Celmo!
How is it possible to play these satisfying bass sounds without having one of those great, expensive amplifiers behind you? This truly IS amazing… I closed my eyes and I can swear I had the sound of an Ampeg SVT410HE or even an Ampeg SVT810E. Then tweaking a bit I had a Peavey TNT 115 with 200 Watts which I love so much, then a Gallien-Krueger MB150S Combo for fantastic responsiveness and depth, then a fantastic Eden DC 210 XLT Metro for tight slapping, or an SWR, the Henry one, for fusion like basses… Just tweak the thing… and get what you want!
DO NOT MISTAKE!
This is not “another device” for deep basses or a so called bass “enhancer”. I can tell with some authority in the field, since I have been a bass player for 25 years already, that this is something else… I have been playing and recording bass lines since I was a young boy! I have used all sorts of amplifiers, old and new, cheap and expensive, for several kinds of musical styles in all sorts of performances, indoor and outdoor, in pro studios and home studios, and so I can say with heavy words:
The BAM is a real achievement in the SFP environment; this will make history as the GAM already did!
I have been waiting for a good bass amp for quite a few years already. I have tried a variation of virtual solutions, with no success, sometimes at quite expensive prices, but nevertheless they were unfortunately cheap in quality… I have been once and over again dissatisfied with all of the ones I’ve tried, till now! For instance, the VST Amplitube costs $350, the copy protection is a real disaster and can put your system in danger. In the other hand, it has a beautiful interface and impresses by the ample possibilities given by the combinations of amps and FX, but the sound lets you soon down… and you realise that all this nice interface, quite attractive, does not match with the sound and responsiveness offered. For chord guitars is nice, but not exiting, this is the only thing I found I can do with it, but for that there are many standard VST plug-ins that can do the job. For consistent guitar leads just don’t try it so you don’t get frustrated, forget it. For deep bass lines is straight useless, cos it has neither responsiveness nor depth, is as flat as a simple EQ.
The Behringer VAMP2 Desktop Virtual Amp, which is a hardware-virtual standalone and USB unit, it’s just so-so, not even better than Amplitube…, it is not conceived for professional usage to my hearing, the sound is also cheap… There are many important classical sounds you cannot reproduce, even badly.
The Line 6 POD Pro XT is good enough to stand versus the BAM, but mind you, it’s not better than it for bass sounds, the BAM is richer and more responsive for guitar sounds and bass riffs that require strong finger accents. For guitar, as many people said, it limits dynamics and makes particular emphasis in the medium frequencies making sounds uninteresting; you also need $650 to get one, and some space to allocate it.
The main problem with all those VST plug-ins and latest virtual-hardware units is trying to emulate sounds with, instead of virtual circuitry, some specialized equalization, applying effects. If you pay attention to most amp and microphone simulations, you are going to notice that they are not genuine simulations, but “equalisations” of them that, even if they can evoke the sound for you to recognise it, are far from their LIVE and responsiveness in terms of dynamism. As said before, most of them are centred in manipulation tone characteristics, generally to the middle frequency range. They are nor piercing sounds, rich, imposing sounds, but ordinary equalized sounds that quickly melt among the rest of the mix, loosing the punch you expect from a real tube amplifier. The tone of real tube amps, can instead literally CUT among all frequencies in a mix, to reach and stand upfront, without distortion or being too loud.
If you have any Creamware card, the BAM makes much sense for you than any VST or hardware virtual amp, and it uses extremely little DSP power, you can use several of them if you want, for several purposes: bass, guitar, synths, drums, etc.
What makes it possible? How can a “virtual” device behave like this? Why it sounds like REAL amplifiers? The answer, HARMONICS!
Harmonics, there are, or there are not, this is the quest!
Harmonics comes up very easily in my bass with the BAM, and even the most difficult harmonics are heard effortlessly. Before having it, I could not have them as easily, loudly and richly. This is always a VERY good thing for string instruments, because it means the sound is richer and rounder. Harmonics makes sounds to be more efficient in terms of getting to sense the right pitch, particularly related to very low frequencies, where the ear looses the reference from what is up and what is down. Basses sometimes get lost in a mix because of lack of harmonics, these harmonics are EXTREMELY important to “sense” the pitch, and with the BAM I can get plenty of them… How difficult it is to keep harmonics heard, when you have build a deep bass or sub-bass in a project, you tend to lose your harmonics and so part of the pitch perception, but not with the BAM. I am most surprised by this unique fact. Now even deep basses can be sensed clearly in regard to the note they are playing. I have not been able to get such natural harmonics without an amp before, least of all in the digital arena. I want to emphasize it, to keep the natural harmonics of your strings is a particularly relevant aim; this is what gives you a professional, natural bass sound.
The preset “Bass CleanComp3” for instance, shows you the magical processing that the BAM is cable of, with low frequencies, allowing for an impressive, large amount of harmonics to rise to the surface of the main sound, to be heard with it and not lost in the path as usual. This makes a clear “tone” difference between the left and right hits of your fingers, when you play over the strings, and consequently, making a more articulated rhythm when playing. Everything you play sounds more MUSICAL! Harmonics comes up quite clear and loud after about 4 seconds with this preset, reminding me the sounds of feedback you get with tube guitars amps when loud, but of course, very softly. The sound of this preset also reminds me the sound of the Ampeg SVT410HE amplifier, tight and rich! I was impressed by the responsiveness and musicality I could get with the BAM, thanks to the harmonics.
I will go on with some experimentations and tests, and will post here for you when finished. I still have to talk about the guitar possibilities, processing voices too, drum & percussion, and synths.
So far I can say:
This is a MUST HAVE DEVICE for all those bassist having a Creamware card, guitarists alike, and also for all those who look for great analogue sounding possibilities!
Highly recommended!
Celmar, as I told you before, you did it again!
The former GAM, gave me the hope that one day, Celmar would do it for bass guitar, and fortunately he did it! So first of all, thank you Celmo!
How is it possible to play these satisfying bass sounds without having one of those great, expensive amplifiers behind you? This truly IS amazing… I closed my eyes and I can swear I had the sound of an Ampeg SVT410HE or even an Ampeg SVT810E. Then tweaking a bit I had a Peavey TNT 115 with 200 Watts which I love so much, then a Gallien-Krueger MB150S Combo for fantastic responsiveness and depth, then a fantastic Eden DC 210 XLT Metro for tight slapping, or an SWR, the Henry one, for fusion like basses… Just tweak the thing… and get what you want!
DO NOT MISTAKE!
This is not “another device” for deep basses or a so called bass “enhancer”. I can tell with some authority in the field, since I have been a bass player for 25 years already, that this is something else… I have been playing and recording bass lines since I was a young boy! I have used all sorts of amplifiers, old and new, cheap and expensive, for several kinds of musical styles in all sorts of performances, indoor and outdoor, in pro studios and home studios, and so I can say with heavy words:
The BAM is a real achievement in the SFP environment; this will make history as the GAM already did!
I have been waiting for a good bass amp for quite a few years already. I have tried a variation of virtual solutions, with no success, sometimes at quite expensive prices, but nevertheless they were unfortunately cheap in quality… I have been once and over again dissatisfied with all of the ones I’ve tried, till now! For instance, the VST Amplitube costs $350, the copy protection is a real disaster and can put your system in danger. In the other hand, it has a beautiful interface and impresses by the ample possibilities given by the combinations of amps and FX, but the sound lets you soon down… and you realise that all this nice interface, quite attractive, does not match with the sound and responsiveness offered. For chord guitars is nice, but not exiting, this is the only thing I found I can do with it, but for that there are many standard VST plug-ins that can do the job. For consistent guitar leads just don’t try it so you don’t get frustrated, forget it. For deep bass lines is straight useless, cos it has neither responsiveness nor depth, is as flat as a simple EQ.
The Behringer VAMP2 Desktop Virtual Amp, which is a hardware-virtual standalone and USB unit, it’s just so-so, not even better than Amplitube…, it is not conceived for professional usage to my hearing, the sound is also cheap… There are many important classical sounds you cannot reproduce, even badly.
The Line 6 POD Pro XT is good enough to stand versus the BAM, but mind you, it’s not better than it for bass sounds, the BAM is richer and more responsive for guitar sounds and bass riffs that require strong finger accents. For guitar, as many people said, it limits dynamics and makes particular emphasis in the medium frequencies making sounds uninteresting; you also need $650 to get one, and some space to allocate it.
The main problem with all those VST plug-ins and latest virtual-hardware units is trying to emulate sounds with, instead of virtual circuitry, some specialized equalization, applying effects. If you pay attention to most amp and microphone simulations, you are going to notice that they are not genuine simulations, but “equalisations” of them that, even if they can evoke the sound for you to recognise it, are far from their LIVE and responsiveness in terms of dynamism. As said before, most of them are centred in manipulation tone characteristics, generally to the middle frequency range. They are nor piercing sounds, rich, imposing sounds, but ordinary equalized sounds that quickly melt among the rest of the mix, loosing the punch you expect from a real tube amplifier. The tone of real tube amps, can instead literally CUT among all frequencies in a mix, to reach and stand upfront, without distortion or being too loud.
If you have any Creamware card, the BAM makes much sense for you than any VST or hardware virtual amp, and it uses extremely little DSP power, you can use several of them if you want, for several purposes: bass, guitar, synths, drums, etc.
What makes it possible? How can a “virtual” device behave like this? Why it sounds like REAL amplifiers? The answer, HARMONICS!
Harmonics, there are, or there are not, this is the quest!
Harmonics comes up very easily in my bass with the BAM, and even the most difficult harmonics are heard effortlessly. Before having it, I could not have them as easily, loudly and richly. This is always a VERY good thing for string instruments, because it means the sound is richer and rounder. Harmonics makes sounds to be more efficient in terms of getting to sense the right pitch, particularly related to very low frequencies, where the ear looses the reference from what is up and what is down. Basses sometimes get lost in a mix because of lack of harmonics, these harmonics are EXTREMELY important to “sense” the pitch, and with the BAM I can get plenty of them… How difficult it is to keep harmonics heard, when you have build a deep bass or sub-bass in a project, you tend to lose your harmonics and so part of the pitch perception, but not with the BAM. I am most surprised by this unique fact. Now even deep basses can be sensed clearly in regard to the note they are playing. I have not been able to get such natural harmonics without an amp before, least of all in the digital arena. I want to emphasize it, to keep the natural harmonics of your strings is a particularly relevant aim; this is what gives you a professional, natural bass sound.
The preset “Bass CleanComp3” for instance, shows you the magical processing that the BAM is cable of, with low frequencies, allowing for an impressive, large amount of harmonics to rise to the surface of the main sound, to be heard with it and not lost in the path as usual. This makes a clear “tone” difference between the left and right hits of your fingers, when you play over the strings, and consequently, making a more articulated rhythm when playing. Everything you play sounds more MUSICAL! Harmonics comes up quite clear and loud after about 4 seconds with this preset, reminding me the sounds of feedback you get with tube guitars amps when loud, but of course, very softly. The sound of this preset also reminds me the sound of the Ampeg SVT410HE amplifier, tight and rich! I was impressed by the responsiveness and musicality I could get with the BAM, thanks to the harmonics.
I will go on with some experimentations and tests, and will post here for you when finished. I still have to talk about the guitar possibilities, processing voices too, drum & percussion, and synths.
So far I can say:
This is a MUST HAVE DEVICE for all those bassist having a Creamware card, guitarists alike, and also for all those who look for great analogue sounding possibilities!
Highly recommended!
Celmar, as I told you before, you did it again!
