After having switched from tripleDat to Sam pro 7, I'm finding out how wonderful and intuitive tripleDat is. I am completely frustrated with Sam.... don't know why I can't get anywhere... the demo project sounds absolutely not pro, but like a toy, thin and tinny. My computer is a new build...
P4 2.4 Ghz
Asus p4b533
1 gig ddr RAM
Promise Ultra-100
Matrox G450
100 gig WD 7200 rpm hdd
2 Pulsar II cards
SFP 3.1c
RME ADI-8 DS
Samplitude pro 7
win xp (tweaked according to many suggestions from this forum.)
monitors: Mackie HR824
Anyone out there have any secrets or suggestions on getting started? I've spent about 40 hours so far building, tweaking, reading manuals, etc.
I'm tempted to simply go back to easy to use tripleDat at 16/48 and forget trying to break into the 24/96 world!
Frustrated,
Mike
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: elisha on 2003-04-14 14:43 ]</font>
Need Samplitude help
It is very hard to help you, when you giv eno clues of, what your specific problems are. If you go to http://www.samplitude.com (remember www, or you will get to another site), you will find links to a newcommers forum. You may try that as well.
Thanks, Immanuel, for the reply,
I'm trying to start a new project... tripleDat was and actual software device destination in the pulsar device window... it was very easy to connect my signal paths of multiple tracks to tripleDat to record them... then I would do some editing in triple and finally mix it and add effects in Pulsar before mastering with Optimaster and PsyQ.... I can't even figure out how to get multiple track signals (or any signal) to Samplitude... It's like there's a virtual patch bay that's missing in the signal path... I was hoping to use Samplitude to record multiple tracks and send them over to SFP for mixing and mastering. First of all, can you tell me how to get a signal to Samplitude to record it? Right now my mics & inst. inputs are through high quality preamps, then into the RME ADi-8 DS a/d converter, then into the ADAT i/o on one pulsar board... also, we noticed a whole bunch of clicking and popping when I turned up the mic's in the monitors. (???)
Sorry to sound like such a newbie, but I'm stumped!
Thanks,
Mike
Oh yeah, I almost forgot... I called creamware support, and they really couldn't help me because they don't have a copy of Samplitude there. I searched both the forums at http://www.samplitude.com... still looking, still reading manuals, still trying to find the answers in the program itself. Thanks.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: elisha on 2003-04-14 18:31 ]</font>
I'm trying to start a new project... tripleDat was and actual software device destination in the pulsar device window... it was very easy to connect my signal paths of multiple tracks to tripleDat to record them... then I would do some editing in triple and finally mix it and add effects in Pulsar before mastering with Optimaster and PsyQ.... I can't even figure out how to get multiple track signals (or any signal) to Samplitude... It's like there's a virtual patch bay that's missing in the signal path... I was hoping to use Samplitude to record multiple tracks and send them over to SFP for mixing and mastering. First of all, can you tell me how to get a signal to Samplitude to record it? Right now my mics & inst. inputs are through high quality preamps, then into the RME ADi-8 DS a/d converter, then into the ADAT i/o on one pulsar board... also, we noticed a whole bunch of clicking and popping when I turned up the mic's in the monitors. (???)
Sorry to sound like such a newbie, but I'm stumped!
Thanks,
Mike
Oh yeah, I almost forgot... I called creamware support, and they really couldn't help me because they don't have a copy of Samplitude there. I searched both the forums at http://www.samplitude.com... still looking, still reading manuals, still trying to find the answers in the program itself. Thanks.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: elisha on 2003-04-14 18:31 ]</font>
The best solution is probably to use asio drivers. Get the floating point ones. When you right click on them in the routing window, you can choose the number of channels.
Then you open Samplitude. After you have created a project, you press "Y". Y is the short key to the system settings in Samplitude. Choose asio drivers. Samplitude will even tell you, how many samples latency you are working with (that is, what you decide with your ULLI-settings) - and wich bit-resolution your asio-drivers communicate with. At the moment almost only use my rig for transfering DAT tapes to hard drives. So I work msotly with 1 (one) stereotrack 32bit floating point. I choose the 32bit resolution, because I believe I will get a better result in the end after doing all my editing.
Then you open Samplitude. After you have created a project, you press "Y". Y is the short key to the system settings in Samplitude. Choose asio drivers. Samplitude will even tell you, how many samples latency you are working with (that is, what you decide with your ULLI-settings) - and wich bit-resolution your asio-drivers communicate with. At the moment almost only use my rig for transfering DAT tapes to hard drives. So I work msotly with 1 (one) stereotrack 32bit floating point. I choose the 32bit resolution, because I believe I will get a better result in the end after doing all my editing.
Thanks, Immanuel.
I tried this and right clicked the ASIO destination.... I made it 8 tracks, then opened sam and set device to ASIO SCOPE.... the window showed only one thing.... then when I tried to record, a dialog opened that said my sound card couldn't record at 48k because it was synced to an external device... I looked in every place I could find to see if all my settings were at 48k and they seemed to be... I even checked the RME A/D converter... it was at 48k too. Then with all my faders down (thankfully) the system freaked out and all the meters peaked. Any ideas?
Thanks!
Mike
I tried this and right clicked the ASIO destination.... I made it 8 tracks, then opened sam and set device to ASIO SCOPE.... the window showed only one thing.... then when I tried to record, a dialog opened that said my sound card couldn't record at 48k because it was synced to an external device... I looked in every place I could find to see if all my settings were at 48k and they seemed to be... I even checked the RME A/D converter... it was at 48k too. Then with all my faders down (thankfully) the system freaked out and all the meters peaked. Any ideas?
Thanks!
Mike
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hang in there. You'll have to try out different combinations of asio. Also, press "y" or check in the system prefrences in Samplitude, and make sure you've set your output bits correctly.
I don't use sam 7 so I don't know how asio works, but in sam 6, you'd right click on channel info where you can set the playback device and recording device for each track. When you've set up multiple tracks to record from different devices, you can rec-arm the tracks. Then you open the transport and click the rec button. The rec button on the transport is the easiest way to do multi-track recording. You'll see a pop up window saying "buffers are ready" when you've successfully started multitrack recording. Click "ok" and you're rolling.
The little dot on the rec button activates single track recording. (or "r" on the keyboard) Be careful, buecause you can have multiple tracks rec-armed, and still go into single track recording mode. In which case I believe the top most activated track gets recorded. It's best to arm only one track when doing single track recording. When you've entered single track recording mode, a diaolog window will appear, allowing you to choose filename, input device, etc. (essentially, same as what you saw in the channel settings)
Also, note the different mouse modes. Sam has many different mouse modes that will make you go haywired unless you carefully study them. I personally use the universal mouse mode, where the top half of the track allows you to do range selections, and the bottom half lets you do object sellections. Anyhow, the mouse modes are quite complex so take your time to study them. They're the key to a fast production on sam.
Anyhow, I'm on old sam 6 so that's as much as I can help you on. I'm assuming most of the GUI is the same in 7. (judging from the demo) I remember Grok or someone is using sam 7 pro. See if you can get in contact with him.
If you get strange behavior AFTER you've recorded, like clicks and pops, sudden jumps in the recording, go into the system preferences again with "y", and fiddle with the buffer settings. Sometimes, the system works better with a smaller buffer. You'll have to experiment. The buffers gave me a big headache only a few weeks ago. Only to find I was assigning too much.
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I don't use sam 7 so I don't know how asio works, but in sam 6, you'd right click on channel info where you can set the playback device and recording device for each track. When you've set up multiple tracks to record from different devices, you can rec-arm the tracks. Then you open the transport and click the rec button. The rec button on the transport is the easiest way to do multi-track recording. You'll see a pop up window saying "buffers are ready" when you've successfully started multitrack recording. Click "ok" and you're rolling.
The little dot on the rec button activates single track recording. (or "r" on the keyboard) Be careful, buecause you can have multiple tracks rec-armed, and still go into single track recording mode. In which case I believe the top most activated track gets recorded. It's best to arm only one track when doing single track recording. When you've entered single track recording mode, a diaolog window will appear, allowing you to choose filename, input device, etc. (essentially, same as what you saw in the channel settings)
Also, note the different mouse modes. Sam has many different mouse modes that will make you go haywired unless you carefully study them. I personally use the universal mouse mode, where the top half of the track allows you to do range selections, and the bottom half lets you do object sellections. Anyhow, the mouse modes are quite complex so take your time to study them. They're the key to a fast production on sam.
Anyhow, I'm on old sam 6 so that's as much as I can help you on. I'm assuming most of the GUI is the same in 7. (judging from the demo) I remember Grok or someone is using sam 7 pro. See if you can get in contact with him.
If you get strange behavior AFTER you've recorded, like clicks and pops, sudden jumps in the recording, go into the system preferences again with "y", and fiddle with the buffer settings. Sometimes, the system works better with a smaller buffer. You'll have to experiment. The buffers gave me a big headache only a few weeks ago. Only to find I was assigning too much.
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: kensuguro on 2003-04-15 12:46 ]</font>
I've sent you some explanations Elisha...
Seems that things are beginning to be ok with your Samp 7 recordings...
I use ASIO2-flt 64 SFP's drivers with good results (recording 32 bit float audio files)
v 7.1 with the "freeze" function will be released these days, I bought a Maxtor Diamond 9 ATA 133 hard drive, 120 GB (very good hard drive), to be able to use this feature comfortably. Can't wait!
Seems that things are beginning to be ok with your Samp 7 recordings...
I use ASIO2-flt 64 SFP's drivers with good results (recording 32 bit float audio files)
v 7.1 with the "freeze" function will be released these days, I bought a Maxtor Diamond 9 ATA 133 hard drive, 120 GB (very good hard drive), to be able to use this feature comfortably. Can't wait!
Toujours l'Amour!