what system has more sound quality ?

MARKOZA · Post by **MARKOZA** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 4:01 pm

hello , i want to know what system has more good quality , is it the luna or the pulsar?
i just want to buy one of them , but i don't need all the features in pulsar (synths , effects and more...) , i just need an audio card , to record in good quality with microphone , does the luna will satisfy me ? or should i buy the pulsar ?

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Sat Nov 02, 2002 4:29 pm

The quality is exactly the same, there's just some different devices. For a recording and mix environment, Luna is great! You might need some analog pre-amp for your mic.

krizrox · Post by **krizrox** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 9:13 am

Agree with atOmic.

Luna should suit your needs perfectly.

I will say this though, I had Luna at one time and within a few months had outgrown it. But this all happened before SFP came along. The software feature sets are now more or less the same with the only real difference being the number of DSP's. You may find, as you become more acquainted with all the features of SFP, that you will need more DSP. If you're not planning to do any heavy mixing/mastering/synth stuff, then stick with Luna.

MARKOZA · Post by **MARKOZA** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 11:15 am

ok , thank you guys ,
if i buy the virus kc (access synth) ,i don't need more synths , because with the virus , i can make any sound , so i can stay with luna , but , i afraid that although it , it wouldn't satisfy me ....

kensuguro · Post by **kensuguro** » Mon Nov 04, 2002 12:45 pm

yikes... what happened man? Trippin'? I can sort of understand what you mean.. but you're like fading away!

Post by **garyb** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 1:31 am

nothing makes all the sounds.

mythalethe · Post by **mythalethe** » Tue Nov 05, 2002 7:03 pm

if you plan on playing live the virus is nice, and it does sound great. At the same time, the amazing variety of creamware synths and the powers of the modular are super awesome once you get into it. I hardly use my Korg Z1 for much more than a midi controller much of the time, as I can do so much more in the scope platform. My quandry is that I can't easily port the sounds into a live situation which is starting to annoy me... I am waiting to hear more NOAH details, hoping that it will make taking my pulsar projects live easy!

cheers,

Mythalethe

Nestor · Post by **Nestor** » Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:00 pm

Same answer here. If you play live, well, it’s perfect to get a big beast like the Virus, but if you intend to record, don’t loose your money buying something like an external synth. I would rather use the money to get a SCOPE SP board with all the incredible possibilities it has to offer you. The Virus it will be old in a couple of years, but the SCOPE platform will not, cos it’s all the time going forward. Remember you can always add so DSP to your existing card, so the possibilities are endless. You should try it out before buying your Virus, you’re going to be dead surprised!

King of Snake · Post by **King of Snake** » Thu Nov 07, 2002 2:18 pm

The Virus it will be old in a couple of years

well perhaps but that's not saying much, seeing as it (and all other VA synths) is based upon far older synths that are still very popular today. I say if it sounds good it will never get old.

That said, I do get what you mean, a scope system is of course a very open and expandable system at a very good price (compared to the equivalent in hardware).

The Virus will be a great source of sounds for you Markoza, but keep in mind that it's good to have variety in your sounds, and although if you're only starting out the Virus alone will probably suit you quite a while, the Pulsar will enable you to add more high-quality synths at very good prices. The Luna is simply not powerful enough to run a lot of high-quality synths with multiple voices, but of course, you can always buy a Pulsar later and link them together.

So if your budget won't allow you both the Pulsar and the Virus, I'd say get the Luna and Virus now, and the Pulsar later (you are going to want one anyway

)

MARKOZA · Post by **MARKOZA** » Thu Nov 07, 2002 3:08 pm

Ok guys , thank to all of you , i decided to buy the virus first , and then the pulsar in the future.....

peace

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 3:35 am

Nestor, "don't lose your money to somthing like external synth"? Really?
I'm still pretty new to SFP and haven't explored more than a tiny bit of the possibilities of my Scope board but the first expression is that all the synths sound somewhat similar. They are all those "analog synhts with waveforms, filters and modulators" (that I've never been a big fan of).
I have a bunch of external synths and really don't have a slightest idea how I would accomplish the same sounds using SFP.

borg · Post by **borg** » Fri Nov 08, 2002 10:33 am

On 2002-11-08 03:35, spoimala wrote:
the first expression is that all the synths sound somewhat similar. They are all those "analog synhts with waveforms, filters and modulators"

it's common knowledge that the creamware synths that come with the cards aren't that great, but you know, there's some really nice free stuff and numerous mod patches, that made me forget my outboard gear, especially when you have enough DSP's.
now that i'm using ableton Live more and more, my once oh so great nordrack2 is hardly used anymore (Live has no midi sequencer...

)
but, to each his own, of course...

Post by **garyb** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 3:43 am

any synth that isn't analog-type waveforms and filters is a sample player.

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 4:11 am

Funny garyB...
What about additive, FM, Phase Distortion, Physical Modeling and Granular synthesis, just to mention a few ???

Kim.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 12:11 am

If you ask me the Luna alone has too few DSP chips to be good for much.

huffcw · Post by **huffcw** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:09 pm

Definitely get the Virus KC - the keyboard is an excellent controller and has awesome sounds (not to mention, Access has a great policy for releasing updates and the best customer support) - then get the Pulsar to expand on what the Virus can do.

I would also suggest a rackmount computer and flat-panel monitor. This setup works great for making your Pulsar system more portable.

I left some extra space in the rack case to slide the flat-panel in during trasportation. I hook the flat panel right above the Virus KC on my keyboard stand.

For live work, you may want to consider a backup in case your computer crashes. This way, you can keep the music going while you reboot.

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