Recording drums

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:18 pm

How do you guys record drums (or anything analog source with many tracks at once)? I'm thinking of buying Behringer DDX3216 but it has 'only' 24-bits and it's ADAT connected, so it gives maximum of 48khz.
How can I record 32bits@96khz?
A16 Ultra also gives only 24bits, is this some kind of standard? (And in case of A16 I should buy 10pre-amps, not very nice)

Is 24bits@44.1khz just plain enough?

marcuspocus · Post by **marcuspocus** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 1:12 pm

I think 24/44.1 is 'just plain enough' like you said. And for recording true 32bits/96khz, you need a sound source from inside SFP, since all ad/da are 24bits, there is no use of recording it in 32bits anyway. But recording in 24bits is very recommended thou! You cold record multiple track in 24bits using logic, since i remember you telling us you had Logic. Just route every analog source to asio dest, and record those track directly in logic. That'll do the job just fine.

AndreD · Post by **AndreD** » Sun Oct 27, 2002 2:04 pm

The new Terratec mic 8 seems to be an interesting converter/pre-amp.
Pre-amp section is made by SPL

http://www.terratec.net/products/EWS_mi ... c_info.htm

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spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Mon Oct 28, 2002 6:23 am

Marcus,
I don't have very many analog sources as I have only one card.

But about 96khz or 88.2 khz? It's not possible through ADAT AFAIK. How is it possible?

Post by **garyb** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 12:35 am

i use direct outs from my board,(24 channels of nice pres.you can get studio boards from the eighties for cheap.they already made many great recordings)into a/d converters(frontier tango.two of them.)into light pipe into computer...

a typical session would be 4 mics:kik(akg d112 or audixd4 etc),snare(audix d1),hihat(atm833 condernser),overhead(atm33 condenser)

for the right situation i,d also mic toms and use two mics for overheads,but this takes a lot longer to set up as i like to use gates on tom mics.(snare sometimes too)

i don't usually compress untill later but i do like to limit.

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:10 am

But about 96khz or 88.2 khz? It's not possible through ADAT AFAIK. How is it possible?

It is possible. 16 ch's of adat will give you 8 ch's of 96kHz. The signal is divided across two adat channels.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:18 am

bassdude, aaah.. but I bet it needs some special features from both devices? Does Pulsar/Scope support it?
How about other usual devices?

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:30 am

It's called S-MUX, and is AFAIK only supported by CW ADAT ports.

valis · Post by **valis** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:32 am

[moved to it's own thread]

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ChrisWerner · Post by **ChrisWerner** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:46 am

Are you recording with Cubase?

I use the TrueTape from Cubase VST32, it can record 32bit flow wav , I use the Asio2-32 Source64 Pulsar/Asio modules for that.
But I don´t tried this on a multichannel record of drums, via a Mixer and the ADAT´s.
My working samplerate is 44,1kHz.
That should be enough,there is a small golden norm: Your recording samplerate should be twice higher than the highest frequence of your recording signal.
Do you ever heard a HiHat at 48kHz ?

Cheers

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bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Wed Oct 30, 2002 8:04 pm

On 2002-10-29 02:30, at0mic wrote:
It's called S-MUX, and is AFAIK only supported by CW ADAT ports.

Hello Atomic,

Any product that is s-mux compatible can do 96khz over adat. e.g. the new Octopre from Focusright (8 preamps) has *two* adat outputs specifically so it can transfer 96kHz over ADAT.

Cheers!