This file has expired and is no longer available here. The owner of the topic can re-upload the file, or post a link to an off-site file. <BR><BR><a name="planetz-tag"></a>Genre: Electronic<BR> <a name="planetz-tag"></a>Uses: Pulsar Mixer Reaktor M-Tron Cubase with Plug´s Samples<BR> copyright © 2002 Christian Werner<BR> _____________________________________<BR><BR> Hi,
I´ve made this track for the workshop several people asked me for.
When you like it , I will split this track in different groups like Drums ,Pads or F/X.
Each group will be post here separate.
I would explain how I´ve worked on each group ,how I played ,mixed and mastered it.
I look forward to start the workshop on next monday.
Please send me suggestions and questions ,what do you want know and how the workshop could run at it´s best.
CU
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Workshop Track ?
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Neil B
Chris
Yet another absolutely awesome track. I think that we’re on the same wavelength but you’re simply streets ahead!
Love the sequencing, instrumentation, atmosphere and mood. And you just quickly made this track for the workshop? I’m impressed.
With respect to the workshop, here are my ideas and requests, although it may become a bit of a long list!
I think that the workshop has got to be focussed on what you did, with what and how. There is a danger that people may be trying to delve into your head to steal your style and compositional skills. I think that this would be unfair on you unless you are happy to see others composing in the Tangerine Dream style that this track reminds me of.
There are some obvious things that need to come out of it:
1. What equipment at a high level (Pulsar, Cubase, outboard gear etc) have you used.
2. If we’re going to recreate the workshop track per se, what instrumentation (miniscope, Prisma) and patches (although we’re now getting into cloning)
3. Method of working.
For instance, the sequencing (and by this I mean the old 16 step sequencing technique of TD) has either been done using delays or by copying a track and shifting it along a few ticks in Cubase.
If you’re using delays, there are a variety of ways this could be done. You could have:
a) Recorded the track on a Pulsar synth without delay, bounced it to audio and added delays in Cubase, meaning you had already visualised the end product)
b) Recorded the track on a Pulsar synth using Pulsar delays and then converted to audio.
Another obvious question about the method of working would be whether you connect the Pulsar synths to a mixer as a mono input or stereo and then the workshop could cover the benefits and techniques of panning. I’m sure that this could be a big subject in itself.
Do you mix in midi and then convert to audio or mix in audio once the notation has been nailed into place?
Do you add effects pre or post audio? That is, do you record the sounds to audio with the Pulsar effects already in the track or do you use Pulsar synths but prefer Cubase effects after? Which effects? How do you get the spaciousness, depth, atmosphere etc. Your opinions on the various effects processors etc should of course be a part of the workshop.
The above are just a few things off the top of my head (and during my all too short lunch break).
In terms of suggestions, it may be good to post a bare bones section with explanations of what you did, plus the processed final section/group too, so that the difference can be heard.
In fact this may be the way to run the workshop – drip feeding bit by bit.
I think that it is down to you on how much you want to share with other occupants of PlanetZ really.
I hope that this is the sort of reply you were hoping for.
Yet another absolutely awesome track. I think that we’re on the same wavelength but you’re simply streets ahead!
Love the sequencing, instrumentation, atmosphere and mood. And you just quickly made this track for the workshop? I’m impressed.
With respect to the workshop, here are my ideas and requests, although it may become a bit of a long list!
I think that the workshop has got to be focussed on what you did, with what and how. There is a danger that people may be trying to delve into your head to steal your style and compositional skills. I think that this would be unfair on you unless you are happy to see others composing in the Tangerine Dream style that this track reminds me of.
There are some obvious things that need to come out of it:
1. What equipment at a high level (Pulsar, Cubase, outboard gear etc) have you used.
2. If we’re going to recreate the workshop track per se, what instrumentation (miniscope, Prisma) and patches (although we’re now getting into cloning)
3. Method of working.
For instance, the sequencing (and by this I mean the old 16 step sequencing technique of TD) has either been done using delays or by copying a track and shifting it along a few ticks in Cubase.
If you’re using delays, there are a variety of ways this could be done. You could have:
a) Recorded the track on a Pulsar synth without delay, bounced it to audio and added delays in Cubase, meaning you had already visualised the end product)
b) Recorded the track on a Pulsar synth using Pulsar delays and then converted to audio.
Another obvious question about the method of working would be whether you connect the Pulsar synths to a mixer as a mono input or stereo and then the workshop could cover the benefits and techniques of panning. I’m sure that this could be a big subject in itself.
Do you mix in midi and then convert to audio or mix in audio once the notation has been nailed into place?
Do you add effects pre or post audio? That is, do you record the sounds to audio with the Pulsar effects already in the track or do you use Pulsar synths but prefer Cubase effects after? Which effects? How do you get the spaciousness, depth, atmosphere etc. Your opinions on the various effects processors etc should of course be a part of the workshop.
The above are just a few things off the top of my head (and during my all too short lunch break).
In terms of suggestions, it may be good to post a bare bones section with explanations of what you did, plus the processed final section/group too, so that the difference can be heard.
In fact this may be the way to run the workshop – drip feeding bit by bit.
I think that it is down to you on how much you want to share with other occupants of PlanetZ really.
I hope that this is the sort of reply you were hoping for.
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Yes Neil, that is a good information for me, it helps me to construct the workshop.
Each question you asked for will be answerd.
I made this Track with almost free,shareware or demo PlugIn´s ,so I can deliver nearly everthing to you.
My first part of the workshop would start with my setup ,what I use for keybords and programs ,how Pulsar is connected to Cubase and how I start a new project.
I guess you will be surprised.
Anyone else have questions or suggestions ?
Each question you asked for will be answerd.
I made this Track with almost free,shareware or demo PlugIn´s ,so I can deliver nearly everthing to you.
My first part of the workshop would start with my setup ,what I use for keybords and programs ,how Pulsar is connected to Cubase and how I start a new project.
I guess you will be surprised.
Anyone else have questions or suggestions ?
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Hello Chris: Yes, a little suggestion there, do it into the Study forum, which is too quiet at the moment.
Well my first interest it is centred onto your track about Meditation. This one has really turned me upside-down; it was quite an experience to listen at it! What I would like to know about it? Everything! Everything you have used to go there, to these incredible landscapes and atmospheres.
I stick to what Nail has just said, good questions for a workshop.
I like this song to but still, my interest is completely concentrated in the Meditation one, this is a masterpiece to me.
Well my first interest it is centred onto your track about Meditation. This one has really turned me upside-down; it was quite an experience to listen at it! What I would like to know about it? Everything! Everything you have used to go there, to these incredible landscapes and atmospheres.
I stick to what Nail has just said, good questions for a workshop.
I like this song to but still, my interest is completely concentrated in the Meditation one, this is a masterpiece to me.
*MUSIC* The most Powerful Language in the world! *INDEED*
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Hi Nestor,
this track here uses the same effects,
instruments and mixing-mastering procedure like the meditation track.
So the technic-side will be the same.
Maybe most questions will get an answer,Nestor.
When not asked me again, when the workshop is done.
I´ve to say thankyou, that you help me through this workshop. Only with your help this workshop have life.
CU
this track here uses the same effects,
instruments and mixing-mastering procedure like the meditation track.
So the technic-side will be the same.
Maybe most questions will get an answer,Nestor.
When not asked me again, when the workshop is done.
I´ve to say thankyou, that you help me through this workshop. Only with your help this workshop have life.
CU
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Workshop is opened in the Pulsar Study forum.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=21&1
Hope you have fun.
http://www.planetz.com/forums/viewtopic ... forum=21&1
Hope you have fun.
