I's there a book out there that can guide you through the learning process? Something that can quickly get me up to speed with it and show me useful tricks and techniques.
The ones Ive seen seem to be a bit old and geared towards version 4.
Can anyone advise on a good book for logic audio 5
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John Henric
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Orbita,
I just got 'Making music with emagic logic audio' by Stephen Bennett. Although the latest logic version it covers is 4.5, the bulk of the program - it's object orientated/modular nature and the dreaded environment concept is well coverered. From what I've seen so far emagic has'nt changed much of that since 4.5. There's loads of the everyday stuff too; editing, shortcuts, simple and effective tips.
From a user perspective I don't feel logic is that different to other sequencers in the way it deals with midi or audio. I think the greatest difference to cubase for example is the 'extended' framework everything's suspended in. Even if you don't need the possibilities that offers I still think you need to understand it reasonably, or it will eventually get in your way.
So as a logic newbie but experienced sequencer user, that's what I'm going to do for a start - get a good grasp on the architecture and set up something minimalistic. Then I'll add and adapt as I go.
I just got 'Making music with emagic logic audio' by Stephen Bennett. Although the latest logic version it covers is 4.5, the bulk of the program - it's object orientated/modular nature and the dreaded environment concept is well coverered. From what I've seen so far emagic has'nt changed much of that since 4.5. There's loads of the everyday stuff too; editing, shortcuts, simple and effective tips.
From a user perspective I don't feel logic is that different to other sequencers in the way it deals with midi or audio. I think the greatest difference to cubase for example is the 'extended' framework everything's suspended in. Even if you don't need the possibilities that offers I still think you need to understand it reasonably, or it will eventually get in your way.
So as a logic newbie but experienced sequencer user, that's what I'm going to do for a start - get a good grasp on the architecture and set up something minimalistic. Then I'll add and adapt as I go.
Hi, thanks for that
Coming from cubase, i'm finding logic tricky to get to grips with the basic editing stuff. I find the manual as with all manuals great for reference but not good for learning.
Would you say the Making music book guides you through the learning process well?
What I want really is something I can sit down with, that through some basic exercises will show me enough to get on and make some music, and later through more complex examples will help me get to grips with the details and explore it better.
Coming from cubase, i'm finding logic tricky to get to grips with the basic editing stuff. I find the manual as with all manuals great for reference but not good for learning.
Would you say the Making music book guides you through the learning process well?
What I want really is something I can sit down with, that through some basic exercises will show me enough to get on and make some music, and later through more complex examples will help me get to grips with the details and explore it better.
To be or not to be. What was the question?
the cool school interactus cd rom is good too.(if you don't mind that there's only v4.it'll still help)logic is really not as tough as it looks,altho there are some very deep layers to it.one can still get tons of use just from the obvious.there is often more than just one way to do things in logic,so don't look for the "right" way,just look for a way.as you become more experienced you will find shortcuts and methods that suit how you like to work.good luck!
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paulrmartin
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Are you into technicians language? Ye -read the official logic audio book, if not you want to understand some things beyound read the online logic tipps of http://www.memi.com (smart work and downloadable).
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John Henric
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>>Coming from cubase, i'm finding logic tricky to get to grips with the basic editing stuff.>>
Oh yes. "Did I break my arm? I don't want this mitten. Maybe I should have my eyes checked. There IS a dolphin in the sky, allright? No, no, let me out of this straightjacket will ya.."
But things fall into place eventually. You just got to spend time with it. Get acquainted with the Logic manifesto.
>>Would you say the Making music book guides you through the learning process well?>>
A definite yes. The layout of most chapters is step-by-step. And once on the track you can skip between functions in Logic/chapters in the book if you ram your head in the wall somewhere.
>>What I want really is something I can sit down with, that through some basic exercises will show me enough to get on and make some music, and later through more complex examples will help me get to grips with the details and explore it better.>>
That's how I approach it as well. It works. I appreciate the attention the author gives to how Logic integrates its functions, while still keeping in context. Not bad. As you go through the book the Logic universe unfolds.
(I better stop before someone starts throwing last months vegetables at me.)
The publishers website is:
http://www.pc-publishing.co.uk
Oh yes. "Did I break my arm? I don't want this mitten. Maybe I should have my eyes checked. There IS a dolphin in the sky, allright? No, no, let me out of this straightjacket will ya.."
But things fall into place eventually. You just got to spend time with it. Get acquainted with the Logic manifesto.
>>Would you say the Making music book guides you through the learning process well?>>
A definite yes. The layout of most chapters is step-by-step. And once on the track you can skip between functions in Logic/chapters in the book if you ram your head in the wall somewhere.
>>What I want really is something I can sit down with, that through some basic exercises will show me enough to get on and make some music, and later through more complex examples will help me get to grips with the details and explore it better.>>
That's how I approach it as well. It works.
I appreciate the attention the author gives to how Logic integrates its functions, while still keeping in context. Not bad. As you go through the book the Logic universe unfolds.(I better stop before someone starts throwing last months vegetables at me.)
The publishers website is:
http://www.pc-publishing.co.uk
I would be happy to share usage tips with Logic, if anyone wanted to start a thread in the Pulsar Study area with a few specific questions to kick it off, I'll join in. I can also post a few ideas to get you started, and maybe a few screen shots of how I work with Logic. Actually if you know any gurus locally who use Logic and can watch them use it, you would be efficient with it pretty much straight away...
hey sub, that would be very kind of you as I and Im sure others dont know anyone personally who knows logic to learn from.
If you get time to put some basic tutorials together with environment setup examples that would be fantastic. Im sure lots of people would find it valuable. Dont go out of your way to do it though.
Im picking it up gradually. Its a shame the buttons and icons dont have mouseovers, i have to keep looking them up to find out what they do.
On a separate note, I put 2 of those slot fans in my machine and a separate inverted exhaust fan (to push air in) and, touch wood, it seems to be doing the trick. At least the top of the pc isnt getting hot as it was before and there is a stream of hot air coming out of the back.
Lets hope they dont burn out!
If you get time to put some basic tutorials together with environment setup examples that would be fantastic. Im sure lots of people would find it valuable. Dont go out of your way to do it though.
Im picking it up gradually. Its a shame the buttons and icons dont have mouseovers, i have to keep looking them up to find out what they do.
On a separate note, I put 2 of those slot fans in my machine and a separate inverted exhaust fan (to push air in) and, touch wood, it seems to be doing the trick. At least the top of the pc isnt getting hot as it was before and there is a stream of hot air coming out of the back.
Lets hope they dont burn out!
To be or not to be. What was the question?
I also recommend Stephen Bennett's book "fast guide to emagic logic". It is light years better than Bellingham IMO. Bellingham's book is 3/4's about what computer to buy, how to use EQ, and a description of the plugins. Bennett's book actually gives concrete and useful examples of using the program instead of rehashed descriptions. Bennett's book is completely applicable to newer versions even though it was written a while back.
Also as another poster said, Logic is very versatile in regard to how to accomplish something. There may be 5 or 6 methods that any person likes to use to accomplish a given task. It is more geared toward lateral thinkers than vertical thinkers. So, you can experiment by wiring things together in the environment, using multiple editors to accomplish the same task, and using multiple methods (graphical, direct data entry, etc) to get something done in a way that makes sense to you. This versatility is often perceived as complexity.
Also as another poster said, Logic is very versatile in regard to how to accomplish something. There may be 5 or 6 methods that any person likes to use to accomplish a given task. It is more geared toward lateral thinkers than vertical thinkers. So, you can experiment by wiring things together in the environment, using multiple editors to accomplish the same task, and using multiple methods (graphical, direct data entry, etc) to get something done in a way that makes sense to you. This versatility is often perceived as complexity.
connect up the device(in and out)and enable the other device to receive mtc.a subhuman said there is a menu (options/sync) which lets you choose what sync modes are enabled,but mtc is already enabled by default,i believe.all you should need to do,if everything is connected, is push the sync button on the transport.in fact,depending on the setup of the other device,logic can go into sync mode automatically.On 2002-06-25 07:07, braincell wrote:
I have a question I think you can answer subhuman. How do I get logic to send out a midi time code and midi sync signal? It seems much easier in Cubase.
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