Audio Over LAN

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Audio Over LAN

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There has been a lot of talk of audio over LAN - networking etc.... Focusrite do a rednet series using audinate virtual sound card for example-waves have released audio interfaces with LAN on them - there maybe many more----

I'm at the stage where I may get my project room done out into a small control room live room in one but may also consider having a room upstairs for small live room only - quite ambitious for a hobby!-but I do have Cat5e points for networking which could prove really handy....

Then I started to think how I could make this work with the Creamware PCI cards & Xite-1-All of this is early stages of planning but I thought OK in this hypothetical scenario-a mic/line/DI box is in this room upstairs-signals are sent through the Cat 5e points - they go through the network arrive at the other end and come out the cat 5e downstairs into an AD/DA box (controlled remotely say on focusrite software then into ADATs connected to Creamware S|C cards-

All sounds OK till now - but focusrite use audinate virtual sound card or pci-e but the ASIO driver I would need to use would be the Scope driver not audinate-

MADI bridge isn't an option yet for Scope is it???-so that is ruled out then?
Sorry for long winded thought process on this but would or could this idea work in reality?

Because I have much of the gear I need (not all) I'd be looking to add just sufficient tech to make this a reality-and would have an unusual but problem solving control room and live room - so please best ideas forward my brain aches..... thanks
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Re: Audio Over LAN

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4PC + Scope 5.0 + no more Xite + 2xScope Pro + 6xPulsarII + 2xLunaII + SDK + a lot of devices (Flexor III & Solaris 4.1 etc.) + Plugiator.
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Re: Audio Over LAN

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you could use reaper to transfer audio over lan and at the same time using the scope asio drivers.
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Re: Audio Over LAN

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djmicron wrote:you could use reaper to transfer audio over lan and at the same time using the scope asio drivers.
Interesting djmicron-[i'll collect all the best options over time]-How would this work? - imagine- control room [downstairs] 2 pc's with Scope PCI cards & Xite-1 [2 pc's minimum]-upstairs [liveroom]-with only the I/O needed to plug stuff in [mics/line] no pc's though-

What I/O would you go with in live room [i'm asking for opinions] that must connect remotely [from control room][otherwise its upstairs downstairs too much and my knees won't take it!] :lol:
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Re: Audio Over LAN

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fraz wrote:
djmicron wrote:you could use reaper to transfer audio over lan and at the same time using the scope asio drivers.
Interesting djmicron-[i'll collect all the best options over time]-How would this work? - imagine- control room [downstairs] 2 pc's with Scope PCI cards & Xite-1 [2 pc's minimum]-upstairs [liveroom]-with only the I/O needed to plug stuff in [mics/line] no pc's though-

What I/O would you go with in live room [i'm asking for opinions] that must connect remotely [from control room][otherwise its upstairs downstairs too much and my knees won't take it!] :lol:
It really depends on your setup, but for audio over lan, you need properly configured computers and network switches.
Say that you have 2 scope based pc's, both connected to a ethernet switch, streaming audio over reaper's reamote, but if you are based on focusrite, it should be using the dante virtual soundcard, so it uses its own asio driver and you'd need to merge it with asio scope and at the moment the only one software capable of using multiple different asio drivers at the same time is virtual dj 8 which is a dj oriented application.

Don't know if dante will provide a vst plugin to allow direct stream instead of using the asio driver, that way you could use it over asio scope.

A workaround could be having a pc dedicated for focusrite dante, running reaper with dante asio driver, then the other 2 scope based pc's running reaper over asio scope, all the 3 pc's connected to the same ethernet switch streaming the dante audio over reamote.
I'm writing this, assuming that you are getting the live room signals over focusrite ethernet based hardware.
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Re: Audio Over LAN

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Hi djmicron,

Both Scope PC's can be connected to internet via network switch-
virtual dj 8 which is a dj oriented application = thanks for this tip I'll check it out- :)
I'll also check out Reaper

The options for the audio over LAN are growing-
Waves
Motu
Focusrite-I've emailed them to see if they have a solution posing at a prospective customer [which is true]

All have possibilities [at this stage I'm just seeing what emerges in the marketplace]

I have thought of adding a 3rd computer for this [but I'd like to get it to work with just the two if possible] and using wordclock for sync and maybe MIDI master or slave from computer 3 [say focusrite dante for example] to one of the Scope computers and hopefully the VST system link can keep working fine between the 2 scope computers-

A potential problem-???-the difference / descrepency between the Scope ASIO drivers & [say foucusrite or Motu drivers on computer 3]???- Would this be a problem? for sync?-
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Re: Audio Over LAN

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I was reading about the new MOTU interfaces which incorporate a new [to me anyway] standard AVB which is not tied to any one particular company eg- Sonic Core could use it in Scope 6 :) -

edit -If the Xite-1 hardware had an ethernet port for networking
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