The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

[garyb]

what, because an "authority" says that it's constitutional, it is?

ummm, no.

by the way, Obama doesn't actually have the power to institute ANYTHING constitutionally. he is an ADMINISTRATOR. that hasn't stopped presidents from issuing proclamations that are treated as law recently though. Democracy, Constitution, those are funny fancy words that make excuses for bad behavior.

i don't need anyone to pay for my health care if the prices aren't inflated beyond belief. it would be nice to have some kind of catastrophic insurance, that i could buy on my own for less than the government would charge, assuming an honest system. all i need is for basic services to be reasonasbly priced, instead of inflated beyond belief by the fact that insurance pays more than people ever did before insuance for the same services. do you know that when i was a child, a doctor's visit was less expensive than the grocery store? we didn't need insurance. wives didn't need to work, and gas station attendants saved money for their child's education and took a vacation trip. where has this money gone, except into the pockets of thieves known as administrators, bankers and authorities? thisd is all just preying on people's fears of death and suffering. if those that administered truly cared for humans, we wouldn't need to have this conversation. since they don't care, they won't actually help. out of pocket expenses will be minimized, but the actual hidden cost on society will skyrocket.

[garyb]

more to the point, national healthcare is well and good, but it is not free. everyone pays a large amount of money for it. it's debatable whether government insurance leads to a lower cost than private insurance, it's not a given.

again, better to not have inflated costs to begin with. then we only need catastrophic insurance, or not.

people have the right to the profit of their own labor.

[Nestor]

PLEASE: ME TOO!!!

[dawman]

I am glad I have been exempted from the peasants plan as I am AFL-CIO/LIUNA.
It's easier to purchase a President with Union dues, and after 4 decades of buying Liberal politicians it's about time we got some payback.

I think it's funny we have a wealthy Liberal Party that copied a plan invented by a wealthy Conservative and the wealthy Liberals are spiking the football, as the guy who invented mandated health care is promising to repeal it.

You gotta hand it to these politicians, they sure have millions fooled into thinking they care about them, and are needed to guide us through life with their infinite wisdom.

[garyb]

http://www.kontraband.com/videos/31952/ ... nker/#show

[Nestor]

Right now it is in the mouth of many of the greatest and smartest economists and market specialists of the world that we are facing the biggest “WORLD” economic collapse in history! Not realizing it at this moment and stage of the situation, it is no longer a matter of disagreeing with a point of view guys, it rather is to put our mind into a voluntary blindness state, it would mean to literally deny reality!

And this one:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/world ... wanted=all

So…

[next to nothing]

Hallelujah!

[Nestor]

Hallelujah!

voluntary blindness state perhaps?

Well, no matter..., the London 2012 Olumpics events will clean everybody eyes

[garyb]

zombie banks!

aaaarrgghhhh....

[next to nothing]

Hallelujah!

voluntary blindness state perhaps?

Well, no matter..., the London 2012 Olumpics events will clean everybody eyes

Voluntary blindness? Am i not seeing something?

[garyb]

zombie banks!

aaaarrgghhhh....

[Nestor]

zombie banks!

aaaarrgghhhh....

[Nestor]

Hallelujah!

voluntary blindness state perhaps?

Well, no matter..., the London 2012 Olumpics events will clean everybody eyes

Voluntary blindness? Am i not seeing something?

He he... Well, I don't know, but you say "Hallelujah!" as an answer to something really sad, so I didn't understand it and have interpreted your comment as a rejection of the idea of a big economic collapse, that's it.

[hubird]

who was actually voluntary blind then?

BTW, positive news: ACTA massively rejected by European Parliament .

[Nestor]

[garyb]

that is good.
i believe that there is another version of that act on the horizon.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense ... nces_.html

[hubird]

sure, winning a battle doesn't mean the war is won

[Nestor]

Yes..., try to kill a mammoth with a fly swatter





folly of follies

[garyb]

[hubird]

Yes..., try to kill a mammoth with a fly swatter

not really...they charged Apple for more than half a biljon, also they got Heineken on the knees for a lot of money, the tele market is forced to lower immensely and equal the prices in Europe, etc.

I guess Apple is the mammoth?