The monster of atomic war is upon us, again...

[siriusbliss]

Yeah, until one has dealt with these 'shadow characters' face-to-face, and confronted the reality of these situations at-hand, then it's easy to deny what's really going on.

And yes, it really only takes a handful of psychopaths to man-handle the puppets that herd the sheep.

It DOES require an educated public, but alas, my teacher/High School Principal/Board-of-Education father saw the light after dealing with the political machine in Ohio that manipulated funding and educational topics/books. He fought through one lawsuit after another before finally retiring. Now the system is still broke, and the children have been left behind with a dumbed down system.

And if the voting system in the US wasn't owned by foreign interests, then MAYBE our votes would actually account for something, but THAT is a whole other 'conspiracy'.

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[dawman]

Foreign entities can use Fed lobbyists to hide their assets as the pole dancers in DC care not who send the cash, they will return the favor if it goes against their core principals.
Just look at the Clintons in 2008.
Bill has juice with the Arabs as they see women as inferior, but know he will call the shots anyways, so they give his Presidential Liubray 20+ Millions, and he gives it to Hillarys campaign illeglally, no problems, they are above the law and know whats right for the little people.
Now in 1/2009 a new and even better law allwoiing anyonomonity has allowed CHinese Millionaires and their corrupt Generals to buy politicnas and legislation,
They are nothing but well paid pole dancers. Theirentire term is to return the favors of sponsors, try and put votes through political attempts at passing unpassablw laws, the nedia gets paid to herd the sheeo and the shell games continue.

God Bless America, Land of the Free...and the home of the Slave.........
I changed the words of the National Anthem for a more accurate despcription...

[garyb]

it's a UN and a World Monetary Fund and Multinationals. it's an obviously integrated world system, which begs a manager. look what's happening with the EU to see how this works.

to say that it's deterministic, is simplistic. systematically, the thing move in a direction with quite a bit of inertia. there are other forces at work like friction and entropy, however. there are infinite possible futures, but fewer probable ones.

to say that this means that there's no point in trying is ridiculous. what is the point of life but to keep on trying? if there is no one to vote for and i don't vote, it doesn't mean that i give up my voice! that's someone else trying for an excuse to take my power. indeed, where voting is an exercise in support of, not voting is an exercise of the freedom to withdraw that support. in fact, my vote is useless unless i fully control it. being forced to vote for something that i don't want isn't being a freeman, even if i am given a choice of things i don't want to vote for. a politician who claims the public's support because he got 75% of the vote, when only 20% took time to vote is an obvious LIAR and possible criminal.

war is not a certainty, but there is obviously a considerable movement towards it at all times.
Alex Jone may be a shock jock, but he uses the regular, accepted sources. one can take in the facts and make up one's own mind. if one disagrees with a reason, then one should stick with reason. if one disagrees soley based in ideology, then that's foolishness. an example: my schizophrenic relative thought that it didn't matter what people told him, if he believed that the car could run without oil, then it can. he never doubted a moment and drove off. it was his first and last car. ideology cost him the freedom to drive.

that's not to suggest that anyone should expect a war. it's not crazy to be concerned about it right now, though. obviously, panic isn't any help in any case.

[next to nothing]

Too bad we don't have Greek among us who have first hand knowledge of these hidden powers that purchase the political process, since they know mans greed is his purest emotion.

And also since they had their first huge bankruptcy around 2400 years ago, when 10 out of the 13 states that had debt wasn't able to handle their loans

One would think a couple of millenniums would teach them a lesson but apparently its a hard school.

[dawman]

Yes but those wars against Darius and Xerces cost tons of cash too, so they overspent to keep from being enslaved, where we in America overspend out of pure addiction and habit....
The upside is less troops and wars I hope, I mean once we get another 2 trillion from China, that will be 4-5 trillion we owe them, so we can't go globe trotting for the Fed unless China gives the green light.
We've been fighting for the Suadis for decades, time to help the Chinese while they concentrate on Manufacturing and education, like we once did....
If they invade Taiwan, I wonder if they will lend us the money to fight them....?............

[Nestor]

Everybody is running behind their own interests in all this mess at Syria, but nobody seems to care much about civilians. Those who care are unfortunately interdicted to enter into the hostility areas. Humanitarian help organizations are trying to help but military answers that “it is too dangerous” and so the door is closed for them. I don’t know if they do it because it is dangerous (of course it is), but because they would witness what is really going on and would tell the rest of the world their strategy.

Arabs open way for arming Syrians, civil war feared:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle ... z1mMOH2tJt

[Nestor]

russian Army Chief: Iran Crisis to Enter New Phase

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120214/171308586.html

[Neutron]

I doubt atomic war is good for profits. they cant suck your money if everyone is dead.
they just want iran to get with the world order, nuclear WMD is the red herring.

[garyb]

that sounds more like it.

[dawman]

Nestors link above shows the Skeleton of a Giant 36' Human / Man being found in India.
Fascinating stuff.
Up in Reno there's a small little known Museum that has 10 foot tall Red Haired Skeletons that were found just outside of town and excavated. Carbon dating says they were here from the last Ice Age.

So maybe that guy in Washington who claims he was raped by BigFoot might have been telling the truth.
That had to hurt.....

[next to nothing]

russian Army Chief: Iran Crisis to Enter New Phase

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120214/171308586.html

While you are at it, look a bit further down to the right on the same page.

While it doesn't fit your bill it is still relevant.

Oh, and as to the secret gene manipulating soy bean company you mentioned earlier, they got a conviction against them as late as yesterdayor or the day before (in france) , and here in norway it has been a case for atleast a couple of years to stop every investment related to them.


Its not x-files you know.

[Nestor]

I doubt atomic war is good for profits. they cant suck your money if everyone is dead.
they just want iran to get with the world order, nuclear WMD is the red herring.

That’s the big question WHY. You’re statement makes total sense to me, but hatred is also a reason for war. Being a blind force, it can do totally brainless things going even against one’s own interests, this has happened in the past many times already. Anyway, I don’t think that hatred is what is the only force going to build such a war today, as everything is totally under control.

Now, which is the reason for this particular war? I would pay you to get to know exactly what it is. It is a paradox, because it is nevertheless going on.

Speculating, I think the reason will not have a single answer, but many complex answers mixed together. An old hatred it is one of the answers for sure, as are economic interests, I don’t know in which way, but they maliciously know what they are doing, you bet.

Also, it is a good point to consider that their plans will not every be perfectly in synchronicity with their desire to rule the world, they may be surprised by people also ready to retaliate in a big way. The world is tired of tyranny, repression, abuse, poverty, etc., so, this also will count.

[garyb]

truthfully Nestor, i seriously doubt if hatred for the Iranian people factors into this.

[Nestor]

Nestors link above shows the Skeleton of a Giant 36' Human / Man being found in India.
Fascinating stuff.

There are many of them around the world, some of them have been hidden by authorities because religious institutions where threaten by the truth of this, that makes their statement totally false.

I witnessed an interesting discovery in Spain (not related to giants, but to ancient populations) and anthropologists wanted to publish the contents immediately, but the church together with some university chef guys, stopped them and the place was covered again. There you have. Books in schools and the so, would tell something completely different, and it was such a shame to accept those changes, that they proffered to bury them again.

So maybe that guy in Washington who claims he was raped by BigFoot might have been telling the truth.
That had to hurt.....

Man, you’re a comedian that was so funny…

[Nestor]

russian Army Chief: Iran Crisis to Enter New Phase

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120214/171308586.html

While you are at it, look a bit further down to the right on the same page.

I so it, the situation is sort of a domino well put that makes all the rest fall slowly one by one.

While it doesn't fit your bill it is still relevant.

Oh, and as to the secret gene manipulating soy bean company you mentioned earlier, they got a conviction against them as late as yesterdayor or the day before (in france) , and here in norway it has been a case for atleast a couple of years to stop every investment related to them.


Its not x-files you know.

Fantastic! I’m glad to hear it. I’ve got documentaries, the one in France, and the other in Argentina. The one in France is sad, but it was a lot the fault of French farmers themselves, as they started applying all these sickening products without letting people know about it, and out of the law. When their workers started to show symptoms of some strange illness, doctors denounced that something strange was going on, and then there was an investigation.

In Argentina the problem is really serious, whatch this documentary in Spanish, if you can understand it, it is really clear: “La vida según Monsanto”. Then if you want to get it in French it is “Le monde selon Monsanto”, in English it is “The world according to Monsanto”. If I remember well, they don’t have the same content.

And we are beyond the imagination of the X-Files. Now reality has surpassed imagination!

this will show you a little what happened there:

http://www.grain.org/article/entries/70 ... nvironment

[valis]

Did we mention yet that Monsanto just bought the company formerly known as Blackwater?

[Nestor]

Did we mention yet that Monsanto just bought the company formerly known as Blackwater?

We have to follow them so, this is too much! I know all those areas in Argentina described in the “must read article" http://www.grain.org/article/entries/70 ... nvironment that I posted above, I have traveled a lot when I was a child with my father 3 months every year, while in holidays, and got to know Argentina quite a lot. Man, these countryside people are so peaceful, so entangled with nature that when you watch one, you see the other…, you cannot separate them because they are one. They were sound and save living a very simple, great life in the middle of nowhere, no illnesses, I life that many today can only dream about…

[garyb]

Did we mention yet that Monsanto just bought the company formerly known as Blackwater?

wow!

that's bad news.
national armies can be troublesome, but private armies that are even more well equipped are beyond troublesome...

[valis]

And of course follow up that news on the 16th with "Xe" (formerly blackwater) has been bought by "private investors" and lots of denial and rumors about other investors to water down the news from the 14th about that purchase.

And to those who were ruminating on why War...aside from the profitability that it shows to the bottom line of defense contractors year after year it sure is a good distraction when there's heavy handed pilfering to be ignored.

[garyb]

ring another bell...